Hello all, I have a 93' GT and is in need of a new timing belt. I had talked with a guy in the Toyota service dept. and he quoted me just for the belt changing $229.00, but if other things needed to be replaced while they were doing the belt that the total should be no more than $850.00. Okay no problem, so I have it towed up there, well the same guy I have been talking with calls me back with a quote of over $1,300.00 WTH???? I called him back and left a messege that I would like him to email me a list of all parts and cost. Does this seem high to anyone else??
No, if he's building you a new fucking motor!!!
Yes, that does seem astronomically high but dealerships charge about $100 per hour where I am. Get the list and see what BS is on there. Going from $229 to $1300 is ridiculous unless you somehow destroyed your motor, which I doubt. If you didn't already know, the 5SFE is a non-interference motor, so even if the timing belt snapped, you wouldn't have done any damage. Let us know what happens...
Yep I know that the engine is non-interferable, funny thing is when he called me he told me the car has a very strong engine and it woud be worth getting fixed ( which I knew that too) but at the cost of $1,300??? I did call him back and have my other half talk to him ( being that I am female and most guys assume to think that we dont know much about cars) So the service guy basically told him its about $300 for parts the $1,000 is for labor, though he said he could maybe get it down to $800 and not replace certain parts. Now I think we are just better off fixing it ourselves!!
He said there is alot of oil all over the engine which we just changed the valve cover gasket, but he wants to replace all the seals except for the rear main seal, and can not garantee that once he puts everything in that the rear mount seal will not break!! He also wants to change some vent hoses, drive belts, and some other shit. I know that of course its best to replace the water pump when changing the timing belt, but is all this other stuff nessesary??? We ( other half and I) have done work on cars ourselves, not timing belts yet, but with the haynes and right parts, and of course some time are they hard to do?
If the car is not apart then fix it yourself and save.
Installing a timing belt is not that hard, just timing consuming if you have not done the job before. If you need any tools you can buy or rent them and still be $$ ahead.
The hardest part is getting to the timing belt. The water pump change is then straight forward, you can pull the oil pump off to change the seal (a couple hour job once the belt is off), remove the cam pulley and replace the seal (requires a little finesse due to lack of room, crank seal is straight forward. Plus timing belt idlers, T-stat and belts as the engine is apart now.
Total parts cost if purchased as discount online non-Toyota outlets estimate under $250-300 excluding vent parts (whatever this is).
AutoZone has a self help section, review the procedure for changing the belt to determine if you want to do it.
If you have never done the job suggest outlining a weekend to do it.
Seals don't break they wear out and start to leak. The only seal under oil pressure is the oil pump seal.
Suggest using a Bando or Toyota OEM timing belt to reduce the chance of belt noise whine. There is also a preformed O-ring that goes between the pump housing and front engine cover that is a Toyota only part (about $5). And while at the dealer pickup a replacement timing belt idler spring.
Sounds like he's giving you a snow job. I'd get my car outta there. It's a 15-year-old car, there's gonna be some oil leaks. Anyone can tell you it's not worth replacing all the seals; if you're doing that you might as well rebuild the motor.
Seriously, I have a engine rebuild service in town, does belts, pumps, gaskets, pistons, the works for $300 less of what they're working you for. And mine would be a pretty much new engine after all that.
Call other mechs in the area if you're afraid to do it, they'll be far more reasonable I'm sure.
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