First being this is my first post here. Allow me to introduce myself in advance and why I need this information. 3 years ago I was involved in an accident with my 00 toyota Celica GT. I was put into the situation where I was guarenteed at fault of rear ending some one in a toyota camry. At the point of impact I had to have been going under 10mph as the only damage sustained on my car was that the Very front where the Toyota emblem is the points that stick farthest out on the car suffered a few paint scrapes. The bumper did not crack bend anything simply paint scrapes. I have photos they just aren't in digital form so I can upload them after work for inquiring minds regarding the extent or should I say lack of damage that was caused.
What I'm looking for is technical Data put out by the manufacturer regarding the crash test ratings of the bumper its self. The reason I need this as I've been involved in an ongoing law suit in reagrds to myself causing lifetime injury and agony. Now I know that I could have ran up and kicked the car harder and caused more damage as the camry lower rear plastic bumper recieved nothing but my paint that scratched off onto her car. I need physical evidence and proof if any one has this saved in a .PDF or a link to where I can print something out. As well is if the moderators of this board feel that this best posted in another section please feel free to move it in hopes of recieving some help in my situation.
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1. Did you have insurance? If so- let the other person deal with your insurance company.
2. If not, the technical data you request had little to do with the fact that the other person claims to have injuries. The performance of your bumper has little to do with the injuries of the person in the camry. Even at low speeds, low enough not to cause much physical damage to an automobile, you can still receive painful and long-term back and neck injuries if you are rear-ended. Is it likely? That's debatable.
4. If the person you rear-ended is claiming to have suffered whiplash, your goal of trying to prove that you weren't going very fast probably won't work. "The speed of the car and the extent of car damage do not determine the risk for neck injury." -www.neurologychannel.com.
3. Hire a lawyer. If this case has so much at stake, put it in the hands of a professional. No offense, but if you're looking on forums for information regarding your defense.... that should be a sign that you should definately go with a lawyer, who has much more experience with dealing with accident cases.
I don't mean any disrespect... but just trying to prevent you from wasting your time, effort, and cash. I would strongly suggest that you hire a lawyer to represent you, so they can use their experience to try and limit your loss in this situation.
1. Did you have insurance? If so- let the other person deal with your insurance company.
2. If not, the technical data you request had little to do with the fact that the other person claims to have injuries. The performance of your bumper has little to do with the injuries of the person in the camry. Even at low speeds, low enough not to cause much physical damage to an automobile, you can still receive painful and long-term back and neck injuries if you are rear-ended. Is it likely? That's debatable.
4. If the person you rear-ended is claiming to have suffered whiplash, your goal of trying to prove that you weren't going very fast probably won't work. "The speed of the car and the extent of car damage do not determine the risk for neck injury." -www.neurologychannel.com.
3. Hire a lawyer. If this case has so much at stake, put it in the hands of a professional. No offense, but if you're looking on forums for information regarding your defense.... that should be a sign that you should definately go with a lawyer, who has much more experience with dealing with accident cases.
I don't mean any disrespect... but just trying to prevent you from wasting your time, effort, and cash. I would strongly suggest that you hire a lawyer to represent you, so they can use their experience to try and limit your loss in this situation.
With all due respect sir. everything that you reccomended is what I would reccomend to one of my other more juvenile forum members . I'm not looking for INS help or lawyer help. The facts stand that I can prove the velocity of the impact with the technical data that I'm searching for. The other party has dealt with my INS. Company for the past 2 years. they won't settle on the minimum pay out that my INS. company is offering them. There fore it moves onto trial after the introductory questionings of both partis etc. Currently my defense attorney is paid for by my INS. company and I am covered for how ever much it costs and whatever the settlement comes to. What I am paying for out of pocket is my Attorney that I am counter sewing for fraud and mental anguish. Reason being is that now if she continues to fight this case she has to pay for a defense attorney. Personal Injury attorney's are the lowest of the low and work soley based of off their parties settlement. If they don't win anything they don't get paid by the party. This way I'm putting the pressure on and if she wishes to continue its going to cost a lot of time and money that this person probably doesn't have. The more facts and true data that I can provide to my attorney the better I have to attack with and defend with. The reason that my INS. company has only offered a minimum pay out is that she neglected to provide proper documentantion to them to prove that she now has nervous system damage neck back and spinal damage as well.
Again I thank whoever can help me. I don't come onto forums looking for legal advice but I figure that some one may have or be able to get this data for me. As obviously myself on my VW forums have more knowledge on where to find extensive technical data on anything that you are looking for that your average Joe.
Great Idea. I'll be sending an email within the hour. I'm sure I'll hear back in a month or two. We all know how quickly government operated companies respond
If you are counter-suing for fraud and mental anguish solely to prevent further action from this lady, you might try finding out where she lives. I would, myself, capture this lady on film doing some kind of strenuous exercise or activity that she could not do in her supposed condition.
(Mowing the lawn, carrying two kids into the house, jogging, or something like that.) You actually might want your spouse, sister/brother, friend to do it, so she doesn't recognize you.
This would be in addition to any other evidence you could produce.
As for your velocity research and argument, you might try asking your actual insurance company if they have research or information they could lend you in support. (They should know that stuff backwards and fowards- as that information is used, in part, to determine rates.) Bumper replacements and repairs are one of the most common claims, so they should know a lot about them.
You could also try to contact the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety. They claim to have done bumper tests on vehicles for 38 years... so they may have information that can help you.
Again though, speed and vehicle damage does not determine the risk of neck or spinal cord injury. Even a light tap can be enough to hurt someone.
If you are counter-suing for fraud and mental anguish solely to prevent further action from this lady, you might try finding out where she lives. I would, myself, capture this lady on film doing some kind of strenuous exercise or activity that she could not do in her supposed condition.
(Mowing the lawn, carrying two kids into the house, jogging, or something like that.) You actually might want your spouse, sister/brother, friend to do it, so she doesn't recognize you.
This would be in addition to any other evidence you could produce.
As for your velocity research and argument, you might try asking your actual insurance company if they have research or information they could lend you in support. (They should know that stuff backwards and fowards- as that information is used, in part, to determine rates.) Bumper replacements and repairs are one of the most common claims, so they should know a lot about them.
You could also try to contact the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety. They claim to have done bumper tests on vehicles for 38 years... so they may have information that can help you.
Again though, speed and vehicle damage does not determine the risk of neck or spinal cord injury. Even a light tap can be enough to hurt someone.
Good Luck.
I'm more then on top of the physical proof of her. Once again I have my first meeting the opposing lawyer on oct 20th. this is only the litigation process so I have a long time to go. untill actual actual court and trial. I have a completely different car from before as well has she hasn't seen me in over 2 years and her houses location is a prime spot for a little recon work. I was planning on spending a sat/sunday stake out as my work week schedule is quite long 630am-7pm mon-fri. I wasn't sure though that if evidence captured by myself would hold up in court though.
I wasn't sure though that if evidence captured by myself would hold up in court though.
Just be sure that you have a way to prove the date/time. (buy a daily paper, and have it in the picture/video).
If your goal is to prevent any future action, I'm thinking that just mentioning it would be enough to give a crippling blow to her case. If you do find out that she's faking it- make sure your insurance company knows about it, that way they can document or research it themselves.
Just protect yourself- stay off her property, and capture pics/video only when she is doing things that are visible to someone that is on public property.
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. I'm not looking for INS help or lawyer help. The facts stand that I can prove the velocity of the impact with the technical data that I'm searching for. The other party has dealt with my INS. Company for the past 2 years. they won't settle on the minimum pay out that my INS. company is offering them. There fore it moves onto trial after the introductory questionings of both partis etc. Currently my defense attorney is paid for by my INS. company and I am covered for how ever much it costs and whatever the settlement comes to. What I am paying for out of pocket is my Attorney that I am counter sewing for fraud and mental anguish. Reason being is that now if she continues to fight this case she has to pay for a defense attorney. Personal Injury attorney's are the lowest of the low and work soley based of off their parties settlement. If they don't win anything they don't get paid by the party. This way I'm putting the pressure on and if she wishes to continue its going to cost a lot of time and money that this person probably doesn't have. The more facts and true data that I can provide to my attorney the better I have to attack with and defend with. The reason that my INS. company has only offered a minimum pay out is that she neglected to provide proper documentantion to them to prove that she now has nervous system damage neck back and spinal damage as well. 
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