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Old 06-10-2009, 06:22 PM   #1 (permalink)
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1992 celica st 1.6 mpg

i bought this car about a year and a half ago i use to get 34+ miles a gallon now i get 23 mpg i recently changed the clutch and spark plugs and was still giving good gas mileage till last week what can cause my mpg the go down
i did a change oil change air filter fuel filter put some fuel injector cleaner and still nothing
please input me on some ideas to get it back up there since gas is on the rise
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you'll need to do some diagnosis on your own, is it misfiring or just running rich? is the fuel pressure regulator working correctly? is an injector stuck open? is the map sensor working? etc
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Old 06-10-2009, 08:52 PM   #3 (permalink)
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do i need an obd reader to diagnose these suggested things
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there is no misfiring and not running rich how would i know if an injector is stuck
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Old 08-23-2009, 09:41 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Heavy unburned gas smell in exhaust, especially after shut down.

You can jumper the DIAG connector to get OBD 1 codes.
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still nothing i tried everything changed fuel filter still getting crappy mpg 24mpg use to get 34 to 38 cleaned o2 sensor what do i jump to get codes no engine light comes on my temp guage never worked i changed the guage i changed the sensor for some reason its always on cold how can i fix that part also
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still nothing i tried everything changed fuel filter still getting crappy mpg 24mpg use to get 34 to 38...
Uhhhh... 24MPG is pretty much in the "normal" MPG range according to the link below. No idea what you did to be getting 34-38MPG. I barely get that in my Corolla.

http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/bymake/Toyota1992.shtml
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check the vac lines in your EGR system and replace the filters in it.
when the filters/lines get old the system can break down and kill your fuel economy.
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Uhhhh... 24MPG is pretty much in the "normal" MPG range according to the link below. No idea what you did to be getting 34-38MPG. I barely get that in my Corolla.
Ditto that.
The mileage you're getting now is what they get brand new(excluding the AllTrac). If you're getting that kind of mileage on an 18 yr old Celica, you're doing great.
Are you sure your previous mileage calculations were correct?
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uhhh...

ANTI-ditto that. I got an st with a 2nd gen 4afe and i Average 35 mpg.... and thats 50/50 city and hwy......
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Not sure this is worth anything to the thread, but I have two Celica ST's w/4A-FE's. My combined city/highway and summer/winter mileage, since I've had them, is 27.0 for one and 28.5 for the other (difference being in how driven, one by a daughter and one by a son, and guess which got the worse mileage!!!!).

On both, there were times when the mileage exceeded 35, over 40 a few times, but more times was under 25, sometimes under 20.

One really shouldn't make a judgement on mileage from one tank of fuel, because of so many different factors. But an average trend chart would do very good.

Recognize also that many states primarily have a 90:10 blend of ethanol mixed in fuels now, and the total heat from the ethanol fuel blend is about 94-95% that of the 100% non-ethanol based fuels. You might have that going on, taking on some part of the problem.

Cleaning an O2 sensor rarely makes it work better - it may just be old and giving too lean of readings to the ECU, and your fuel trims are too high now. Your ECT (engine coolant temperature) sensor may no longer be in the calibration range, so its telling the ECU that the engine is colder than it really is, causing high fuel trims.

I suggest you get an OBD-I Toyota plug compatible scanner and check your long-term and short-term fuel trims. If the long term fuel trim is way up there in positive territory, then you know your ECU is putting far more fuel to the engine for some reason. You can read what the ECT sensor is telling the ECU also, to see if that sensor is faulty. You really can't read data from the O2 sensor, but if it has more than 100,000 miles on it, that would be a highly suspect part to be considered at fault for your fuel mileage.

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uhhh...

ANTI-ditto that. I got an st with a 2nd gen 4afe and i Average 35 mpg.... and thats 50/50 city and hwy......
is the swap for a 2nd generation 4afe straight forward (coming from a 92 st with a first generation 4afe)
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is the swap for a 2nd generation 4afe straight forward (coming from a 92 st with a first generation 4afe)
Yoshiki2, it would be best if you clearly state what you are wanting to do swap, and what it is going into. You may understand your question, but I did not.

What year/make/model is the donor car, and what gen 4A-FE does it have?

What year/make/model is the recipient car, and what gen 4A-FE does it have in it that you will be removing?
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Donor car is a 94 Corolla engine 1.6. Receiver is a 92 Celica St 1.6 my car has a first generation engineering and i wanna installed the second generation on it
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Perhaps the attached link will be of some help. The head on the 2nd gen 4A-FE is much different than that of the 1st gen, meaning you will have to use the 2nd gen intake manifold, and that intake manifold has some different sensors on the throttle position sensor and a different IAC system. The distributor also has different sensors on it. So, you will need to use the ECU for the 2nd gen. That will likely force you to use a different wiring harness, and that may be where your troubles will really hit. In my opinion, this would not be a wise way to go. But this is just my opinion.

http://search.yahoo.com/r/_ylt=A0oG7...a/4aVS7a-7.pdf
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