Looking for celica japanesse GT-TR year 83

[pacorron]

I´m looking despered for a celica coupe GT-TR 1983 japanesse model TA63 turbo twin cam and spark, 3T-GTEU engine 1.8 turbo 160 HP 21Kg torque, no matter condition or location any information will be rewarded Thanks Paco

[stepho]

These were never sold outside of Japan.
You will have to find an importer who specialises in buying vehicles at auction in Japan.
But I have no idea who does this for Spain.

Does it have do be an actual TA63?
You can get a 3T-GTE engine from an engine importer and place it in an SA63 Celica.
Most of the other differences are simple (stiffer/lower springs) or cosmetic (wheel flares from an RA65 GT-S).

- Stepho

[pacorron]

Thank Stepo, but looking for original thing, I´ve been in touch to mwde the transformation but I think its worthy, to import the original car, unfortunatly its hard to get parts of those cars in Spain, by the way, anyone knows the diference between Th GT-TR and the GT-T, does the two models indepnedent rear axel GT-T( its independent for sure) but I´don´t know if TR was solid or independent.

[stepho]

Both the GT-T (grand touring - turbo) and GT-TR (grand touring - turbo race) have exactly the same build code (E-TA63-BCMQZ for coupe, E-TA63-BLMQZ for liftback) and are practically identical from the outside.

Differences are minor things like wheel rim choice (steel for GT-T, alloys for GT-TR).
I have a brochure that details all the changes but it is Japanese.
I can translate it but my Japanese is quite poor and it takes me a long time to look up each word in a Japanese dictionary.
I've scanned it and put it on my website but I only have an A4 scanner and I haven't found the time to stitch the pieces back to together with Photoshop.
http://members.iinet.net.au/~stepho/...ca/8408-Japan/

- Stepho

[pacorron]

Originally Posted by stepho

Both the GT-T (grand touring - turbo) and GT-TR (grand touring - turbo race) have exactly the same build code (E-TA63-BCMQZ for coupe, E-TA63-BLMQZ for liftback) and are practically identical from the outside.

Differences are minor things like wheel rim choice (steel for GT-T, alloys for GT-TR).
I have a brochure that details all the changes but it is Japanese.
I can translate it but my Japanese is quite poor and it takes me a long time to look up each word in a Japanese dictionary.
I've scanned it and put it on my website but I only have an A4 scanner and I haven't found the time to stitch the pieces back to together with Photoshop.
http://members.iinet.net.au/~stepho/...ca/8408-Japan/

- Stepho

Thanks Stepho, there a lot of was I ´ve been serchin for a months Thanks very kind, but one more quetion whats happened with the 200 units of GT-TS they were look a like a GT-TR or T o completly diferent body as the T64 Rally car?

[stepho]

The GT-TR and GT-T are really just a standard Celica with the 3T-GTEU engine sold with the code TA63.

The 220 copies of the GT-TS had the same body as the rally version, the 4T-GTEU engine (a slightly stroked variant of the 3T-GTEU) and was sold with the code TA64.

Here's another brochure of the TA64 in the African Safari rally.
Some pics got corrupted when my hard disk died last year but some are still good.
http://members.iinet.net.au/~stepho/...frican-Safari/

- Stepho

[pacorron]

Originally Posted by stepho

The GT-TR and GT-T are really just a standard Celica with the 3T-GTEU engine sold with the code TA63.

The 220 copies of the GT-TS had the same body as the rally version, the 4T-GTEU engine (a slightly stroked variant of the 3T-GTEU) and was sold with the code TA64.

Here's another brochure of the TA64 in the African Safari rally.
Some pics got corrupted when my hard disk died last year but some are still good.
http://members.iinet.net.au/~stepho/...frican-Safari/

- Stepho

Ok Stepho, thanks very kind, OK but 20 of those 220 unit were real works rally cars, but the rest the 200 road going standard cars were built only with the porpouse to mach FIA Regulations, that forces the manufactures to make at least 200 road versions, the car was much more a like of the T64 Gr.B but the rear trunk for example was different because the Gr.B has extra radiator, front bumper and bonnet was also different, and car has minilite wheels instead speedlines has the works, but the question is WHERE ARE THOSE 200 UNITS GONE I mean you can find Peugeot 205 T16, Audi Sport quattro or Ford RS 200 for sale all over the word, all three model were limited series of 200 units, but I haven´t seen any of those cars for sale never in my live, no ads no nothing, I have only a poor photo of one of the units, anyone has more info or pics or something.
Thanks Paco

[stepho]

Okay, 200+20=220 makes sense.
The Gr.B is based on the TA64 GT-TS but the Gr.B rules allow further changes (eg extra radiator).
Factory race cars go through a similar homologation process here in Australia.
The factory makes a model with some of the interesting stuff already on the car that the rules say can not change (eg engine block).
But if the rules allow something to be changed (eg wheels) then the road car has just ordinary items.
The race team will change those things for better ones.

Here is a press release from Toyota Great Britain.
http://www.toyotagb-press.co.uk/prot...caTwin-Cam.htm

Here is at least one TA64 road version that has been made into a rally replica (near bottom of page, after RA63)
http://www2s.biglobe.ne.jp/~gtr/celica.html

- Stepho

[stepho]

Oops, forgot this one.
http://web.archive.org/web/200003110...e.de/ta64.html
http://web.archive.org/web/200003030...de/museum.html

This site is hard to find unless you know where to look
About 2000 the entire tte.de web site was changed from a TTE history/news site to become a place to sell merchandising.
Luckily archive.org have a backup copy of the original web site.

- Stepho

[pacorron]

Very interesting Stepho thank for the information but

Here is at least one TA64 road version that has been made into a rally replica (near bottom of page, after RA63)
http://www2s.biglobe.ne.jp/~gtr/celica.html

About this link, do you think the car with the 00 number on the door its a replica or one of the GT-TS 200 series?
Thanks Paco

[steeko]

Mine is for sale in Australia. Details on toymods