everyone talks and trashes the 5fse engine and says it just doesnt have umph and power so everyone does the engine swap for the faster turbo charged 3sGTE sooooo i found a 3sgte engine for my 90 gts if i was to buy this would i have to turn my 2wd in to a AWD or can i just keep my 2wd
also would i have to change the hood for the intake or can i keep my enclosed hood
finally if there is any other mods what would they be and what is the aprox time to do all this i really wanna get my car goin faster so please please fill me in
well buddy, what upppp, now the trans u have i ur car is gonna fit, hopefully is manual, auto dont handle the power to well, now and mr2 turbo trans is going to fit as well and it has an lsd, but yes the 2wheel drive trans fits the 3sgte, if u know about car and i mean u r a gear head and have the time, tools and abilitys go ahead, if u cant change ur own oil dont even try swappin the engine yourself, good electrical skills and troubleshooting isgood to have as well, good luck.
hate to be the one to tell you this but ur gunna have to get a more beefed up suspension for your car as well. the suspension you have wont be good for the lighter but much more powerful engine ur puttin in. you can keep ur current hood but since airflow will be less, you run a bigger chance of overheating ur car since the motor has a top mount intercooler. ur better off gettin the all trac hood or an after market hood with a scoop for extra air flow under the hood.
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you can use your 5sfe tranny with it..but it won't hold too long...i suggest using an mr2 tranny...you'll also have to use the mr2 drive shaft...for the intercooler....you might want to get a scoop...or get a custom piping and put your intercooler to the front bumper...if you're looking for a whole swap...let me know...i can get you a really good deal...
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well would just any mr2 turbo tranny hook-up to my engine or is there a specific one? and this would boost my accel times right? because my car tops out at a good clip it just takes to long to get there..... and there for i cant really show off at stop lights when everyone blows me away
gtr you need to goto celica.net they got all the info there... it's in the archives and don't post your questions cuz you'll get flamed... just search thru the archives of posts and faq's and all ur questions will be answered... if not ask me... cuz i've done the swap... but seriously search for it first...
dont use the mr2 tranny, use the gt4 tranny or camry/solara v6 tranny. then the shift linkage will be on the right side...
just get a alltrac clip dude, or gt4 imported... its easy, you will have ALL the parts you need... its the easiest and cheapest way... even if the clip costs 3000 cause you will spend like 3500-4000 doing the swap if you dont get a clip...
Why not the mr2 tranny??and you're saying to use the gt4 tranny??how so if the thing is designed for an awd?..the only way he can use the gt4 tranny is if he converts his car into an awd and that's gonna cost him...try to look for a v6 tranny...but goodluck on that...it's hard to find one of those and trust me..i tried..if i were you...just buy a 3sgte engine..and use your tranny and upgrade your clutch....or get an mr2 but will cost a bit more....
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the mr2 tranny wouldnt work without modification, cause the shift linkage is on the wrong side, since mr2 is reversed from the fwd celica...
you CAN use the gt4/alltrac tranny without the rear driveshaft, just gotta cover up the hole for it.
solara/camry v6 tranny is EASY to find... i picked one up for 250 bucks when i was doing my engine swap... just put in 98 camry v6 std, and the tranny will come up the same for solara and camry... www.car-part.com
since all the trannys are the same e153, you can use the alltrac/gt4 axles and the wheel hubs from the gt4/alltrac. make sure you get calipers too with the wheel hub, get new rotors and pads for the alltrac. you might need motor mounts from the alltrac, not sure if all of the 5sfe mounts will work, some might , but i think 2 are different. also you need ecu, wire harness, ignitor, map sensor, complete engine with alternator, a/c compressor, p/s pump, hoses and belts, upgrade fuel pump
Originally posted by Zoni_Camry the mr2 tranny wouldnt work without modification, cause the shift linkage is on the wrong side, since mr2 is reversed from the fwd celica...
you CAN use the gt4/alltrac tranny without the rear driveshaft, just gotta cover up the hole for it.
solara/camry v6 tranny is EASY to find... i picked one up for 250 bucks when i was doing my engine swap... just put in 98 camry v6 std, and the tranny will come up the same for solara and camry... www.car-part.com
since all the trannys are the same e153, you can use the alltrac/gt4 axles and the wheel hubs from the gt4/alltrac. make sure you get calipers too with the wheel hub, get new rotors and pads for the alltrac. you might need motor mounts from the alltrac, not sure if all of the 5sfe mounts will work, some might , but i think 2 are different. also you need ecu, wire harness, ignitor, map sensor, complete engine with alternator, a/c compressor, p/s pump, hoses and belts, upgrade fuel pump
GET A FRONT CLIP!!!! Everything you will need to successfully complete this engine swap will come in that front clip. And it will come with the all-trac hood with the scoop. I made the mistake of not getting a front clip and it took me nearly a year to get the swap started up. But that was only because it took me awhile to have parts shipped to me and I did not really know how to get the E-153 V6 Solara tranny to mount in the celica either untill I did alot of thinking.
You really dont need to upgrade the fuel pump, most of the guys who do their swap dont even mess with the 5SFE fuel pump since it is the same pump as the all-trac fuel pump. The only thing that needs to be done is at the diagnostics box, the Fp(fuel pump) and B+(constant 12 volts) need to be jumped together, I just used a paperclip. So when you turn the key to ignition on, the fuel pump will be turned on.
The wheel hubs dont need to be touched either, the all-trac hubs and the GT/GT-S hubs are identical. Although you can switch the all-trac brakes onto the GT/GT-S hubs. The 2-piston all-trac calipers will help with stopping distance and the bigger rotor should also help.
It dont really matter what power steering pump you use or what alternator you use b/c the all-trac,GT, and GT-S all share the same accessories. So even if your Front Clip did not come with the Accessories for some odd reason...you could use the ones from your celica.
Do not get a E-153 V6 Solara tranny, trust me, the gearing is not well suited for turbo.
But I personally want to get a MR2 turbo tranny, dont really need LSD though and it is very hard to find a MR2 turbo tranny with LSD too,it uses the same mounts as a all-trac and the all-trac shifter cables.
Basically using a E-153 MR2 turbo tranny or a V6 Solara tranny is like using a Celica all-trac tranny in a celica. Only difference is the All-trac tranny has the rear differential and transfer case. So by getting a front clip you will have almost everything you will need to use a MR2 turbo tranny in your celica(All-trac tranny Crossmember w/rubber insulated mounts,Steel Rear and Front mounting brackets that bolt onto the tranny, All-trac shifter cables, All-trac axles, all-trac shifter actuator).Go to this site and it will show you haw to convert the MR2 turbo's shifter linkage so that it will work in a FWD Celica...
Only thing that you will need to buy is MR2 turbo axles b/c you will need them to make hybrid axles. He should have a little bit of instructions on that same site.
But I think that the GT or GT-S tranny can hold the power just as long as you use the tranny with the intentions of keeping it for as long as you have your celica...in other words dont abuse the GT/GT-S tranny and it should hold the power fine. I know guys who are pushing over 400 WHP with the GT tranny so we know that it can handle the power. If anything get yours rebuilt or get a newer used one with low miles on it.
Well i hope that i Have been helpful.....good luck!
the solara/camry e153 is a good tranny for turbo, i dont know why you would say it isnt... it has longer gearing, so if you decide to upgrade the turbo, you wont have to hop through gears too quickly. if it wasnt good, why would they use it in the solara that is designed to be used with the trd supercharger...
im really curious why you dont think it is good... also, what did you have to do to make it work with the 3sgte?
Okie i am seriously wanting to switch to 3sgte engine, in a few months, but i dont know much about cars, other then changing my rims i can't do much, so i would need a good place with a decent price that can drop the engine in it for me, as mention $3k for a front clip, what about labour and all done? my car us Automatic right now, and since its a swap its good i can get it into manual too. please give me some tips but i wont have the money until 2 months later or so.
Thank you and sorry if i sound like an idiot >_< but i really want to swap that engine into my 90 GT
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