My crazy idea for a 5sfe 93 celica gt

[junkwebemail]

Here is my story.
I have a 1993 Celica GT with the 5sfe.
Original got this car for $150 with bad engine. Cylinder 1 connection rod was visible out side the block. Got a good 92 celica gt 5sfe engine, replaced all oil seals and put it in and drove it for four days.
Was driving the car at very high revs. 5K to 6k. I spun a barring on the cylinder closest to the timing belt. I think it is cylinder number 1. And it looseness the rod bolts, then the connection rod came loose from the connection rod cap, and you know what happens next. Been told that this is very common for this engine and that specific cylinder.
I was lucky the arm did not come out the side of the engine. But it did make a crack JB weld can fix.
So my engine can be fixed. But i don't want to fix it the conventional way.
I don't want to take the crank out and do all the shit Or change the engine.

Here is want i want to do.

I want to run on 2 cylinders.

This is what I am thinking of doing.
Taking the head out. Remove Cylinder #1 and #2 or #1 and #3. I know 3 cylinder will be bad b/c the crank will not be balanced.
The cylinders removed will then have the piston and connecting rod separated. I don't want oil coming up the cylinder wall so I will put the pistons back alone and JB weld it to the Cylinder wall. I don't know how far down but I know it can't be touching the crank or the valves.
So that is the block.

The head will have the cam lubes sawed or grinned off so the valves don't open for those non functioning cylinders. I might be able to do this by just removing the valve lifter with adjusting shim.

I don't car about power. It will be driven no further then 5 miles from my house. I have started a 94 Camry with the same engine. The injectors unplugged for cylinder 1 and 2, and for 1 and 3. So it will start with 2 pistons firing.

So here is my Idea. But I have a few questions.

Witch cylinder is the best candidate for being disabled with cylinder 1? Two or Three? If the right one is picked then there will be a slightly smother idle but still Shiite. I know.
Firing or ignition order is 1-3-4-2. On the 5sfe.

Also how should i plug the holes in the crank where the connection rods were so that i don't have 0 oil pressure? Could i just thread the hold and put a screw in it? What else is possible?

Ideas guys.

[Bitter]

Don't.
You'll have all of 45hp and 50lb/ft torque, will crawl away from a stop, won't be able to pass anyone, and won't be able to go fast enough to get on the highway.

[RobMilkshakes]

If its for fuel economy then it'll have little engine-big car syndrome and you won't receive the desired effect.

Certainly its an interesting idea, but why exactly have you drawn this out?

[junkwebemail]

5sfe is to damned expensive.

[junkwebemail]

Originally Posted by Bitter

Don't.
You'll have all of 45hp and 50lb/ft torque, will crawl away from a stop, won't be able to pass anyone, and won't be able to go fast enough to get on the highway.

Why do you say 45 hp and 50lb/ft torque?
The 5sfe with 4 cylinders is 135hp and 145 ft·lb torque. 135/2=67 and 145/2=72. I should have at-least 60hp and 65 ft·lb torque. The engine took me to 135mph when all 4 cylinders were working at night. If it was day then those frog eye headlight would be down and it might have got to 140mph.
I should be able to get to 60mph with 2 cylinders. Maybe even a little more.
Regardless, the car will probably never get on the highway b/c it will only go no further then 5 or 10 miles from it's home..

[junkwebemail]

Originally Posted by RobMilkshakes

If its for fuel economy then it'll have little engine-big car syndrome and you won't receive the desired effect.

Certainly its an interesting idea, but why exactly have you drawn this out?

Can you get a 5sfe from a junkyard for about $200? The price of one rebuilt completely is about $2k. The short block rebuilt is a little more then $1K.

Do you have one?

[junkwebemail]

When i had the engine out i did a few things. I changed all the oil seals and i adjusted something?
I pulled a spring to increase oil pressure at high revs. It is the oil Relief valve spring. Do you guys thing that when the engine was in such high revs and the oil pressure was higher then the oil filter could handle, so The relief valve in the oil filter opened? And it allowed dirty oil to go threw the engine? Could that have done it?

I also had the issue of the oil filter getting empty after the car was not running for a little will. The oil light would stay on for a few seconds like you just did an oil change. Until l the oil light turned off, the engine was knocking. This was pissing me off. What do you guys thing about fixing this little problem? Other then try a different oil fillter brand.

[RobMilkshakes]

Originally Posted by junkwebemail

Can you get a 5sfe from a junkyard for about $200? The price of one rebuilt completely is about $2k. The short block rebuilt is a little more then $1K.

Do you have one?

Yes actually, from pick and pull yards around here its $185 for an engine w/o accessories. And no I do not have one.

I mean, you got a car for $150, its rare that you don't have to put a significant amount of money for a working car.

Honestly, I think you'd be better off parting it out, you'd be able to make a fair bit of money back and you can put that towards something like an ae92 corolla, something economical, easy to fix, inexpensive, and won't require a ton of work for it to function....

[junkwebemail]

Originally Posted by RobMilkshakes

Yes actually, from pick and pull yards around here its $185 for an engine w/o accessories. And no I do not have one.

I mean, you got a car for $150, its rare that you don't have to put a significant amount of money for a working car.

Honestly, I think you'd be better off parting it out, you'd be able to make a fair bit of money back and you can put that towards something like an ae92 corolla, something economical, easy to fix, inexpensive, and won't require a ton of work for it to function....

In pick and pull yards around my area, the 5sfe does not run for less then $400 if your are lucky. You should be happy that you live in a dense population zone. I almost got a 96 camary with 236K rolled over for $275 on craigslist, but the guy sold it to a junkyard for $350. And the next day the engine for this car was up on car-parts.com for $700. I could not believe it.

So how much do you think it will make me if i part the car out?
$500?

Up to know I think the car has cost me about $900.

Sorry If I sounded like you did not know anything. I want to apologize. I don't mean it that way.

[junkwebemail]

So come one guys. Somerecomendation about with two cylinders to use and some other things i have in the post.

[Bitter]

Install a 2 cylinder engine if you want 2 cylinders. Maybe you can find a good block somewhere or rebuild yours, maybe a 3S-FE is cheaper than the 5S.

[Ace2424]

Originally Posted by junkwebemail

Can you get a 5sfe from a junkyard for about $200? The price of one rebuilt completely is about $2k. The short block rebuilt is a little more then $1K.

Do you have one?

You could get a BEAMS 3S-GE for 1k... I would never spend 2k on a 5s...

[junkwebemail]

Originally Posted by Ace2424

You could get a BEAMS 3S-GE for 1k... I would never spend 2k on a 5s...

Would the 3s-ge be a drop and fit in my engine bay? And What would i have to do to the wiring? I am gessing it will have noproblem going in but the wiring might be an issue. Specily if it does not come with one and an ECU.

[RobMilkshakes]

... I've never seen a beams 3S for that cheap. The wiring is vastly different and keep in mind that it was never in this market so parts would be difficult to get a hold off. Since it is an S series engine it would bolt it in though.

[Ace2424]

Type in BEAMS red top in eBay :p you can even get a regular 3s for around 800