Which one?? 5sfte or 5sgte - Page 2 - Toyota Nation Forum : Toyota Car and Truck Forums

trebor_9513 · 10-07-2004, 01:22 PM

Really I wanted to know if any celicas has made this attempt. I see that the dream is to go all out and build from a 3sgte, but the 5sfte looks to be the middle ground before tackling a 5sgte. That is eventually what I want to be playing with.

Zrain · 10-07-2004, 01:57 PM

im doing a 5s-FTE, but at the moment im taking my time (im up north so no sence going nuts with snow on its way)

the acorcding to some the 5s is stronger then the 3s, while others say the 3s is stronger then the 5s, at any rate its erelivent if you sticking to stock components of the 3sGTE turbo setup.

the 5sFTE is a good setup for your money, upto 18PSI with intercooler is the curent "safe limit" acording to some, but alot of people with this setup stick to 8Psi max, and no intercooler.

the internals will not fail you if you stay under 8Psi, (IE: your boost wont kill them, somthing else might but thats beond this argument at the moment) if you go over, just be shure to use an intercooler and you should be safe.

as for the $ to Power comparison, the 5sFTE is about 10:1 better then the 5sGTE, given the fact that it can be done with out even taking the mottor out of the car, or swaping the ECU.

the 5s-GTE requires more work for relitivly the same gains.

the FE head dose have one advantage over the GE head and thats Torque. given its desine and cam profile (econo car).

dude, do this: Get the 3sGTE exhauset Mainfold, and the 3bar map, and an adapter plate to convert to t3/t4 hybrid turbo, then get a decent t3/t4, for like 500 bucks or so, and then bolt it all up with a bost controler. run 8Psi, and behappy. you will have good power, goot Torque, a nice sounding car, and it will last you. if u need more power look into an intercooler, and some good tuning tools. and get it Tuned.

trebor_9513 · 10-07-2004, 02:17 PM

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Originally posted by Zrain
im doing a 5s-FTE, but at the moment im taking my time (im up north so no sence going nuts with snow on its way) ......

the 5sFTE is a good setup for your money, upto 18PSI with intercooler is the curent "safe limit" acording to some, but alot of people with this setup stick to 8Psi max, and no intercooler. ....

and get it Tuned.

bummer on the snow man

but, maybe the snow will break for a couple a days and you can go out on the prowl.

How far would you go in replacing the internals to keep in the "safe limit"?
I mean after replacing all the guts and switching to stronger gaskets is seems that maybe 18 psi may still be a little restrictive? lol Just a thought.

I'm pondering the 5sfte for the ability to modify while in school, married, having a good sexlife, and not working a "real" job. Free time is a rare commodity in Tennessee for me.

For those of you who have done the 5sfte, what are the most frequent problems you run into?

toylover · 10-07-2004, 03:33 PM

Hows this for an idea, buy a 3SGTE and use the MAP/oil pan/lines/manifold/turbo/top mount ic on the 5SFE. When it blows, swap in the 3SGTE with all the turbo parts.

toylover · 10-07-2004, 03:34 PM

To add, problems i've heard of have been spun bearings and snapped rods on high mileage engines.

trebor_9513 · 10-07-2004, 03:38 PM

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Originally posted by toylover
Hows this for an idea, buy a 3SGTE and use the MAP/oil pan/lines/manifold/turbo/top mount ic on the 5SFE. When it blows, swap in the 3SGTE with all the turbo parts.

yeah I could... but then why not go ahead and just install it?

I want something a little more unique. Not that the alltrac isn't, but still pride is a big factor. I want to work with what I have as much as possible.

trebor_9513 · 10-07-2004, 03:41 PM

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Originally posted by toylover
To add, problems i've heard of have been spun bearings and snapped rods on high mileage engines.

Mine has roughly 47,000 miles. I think she still qualifies as low milage.

Plus before I break out the wrenches going to have her checked out. Leak down, compression, what else????

trebor_9513 · 10-07-2004, 03:50 PM

Alright,
Here's what I've learned, (gotta love pm!)
1991 - 1995 MR2 tubro.

These all should have the 3sgte exhaust manifold that will bolt right up to my 1990 gts 5sfe.

ct26 is the easiest bolt on turbo (maybe one of the only direct bolt on).
Any one got a CT26 you want to part with?

Just thought I'd ask.

Any one else who has done the 5sfte, what other turbos have you used? What type of adapter plate do you modify to get it to work?

trebor_9513 · 10-12-2004, 11:21 AM

bump

and,... has anyone ever thought about making a sticky that explains the build ups for 5sfte and 5sgte, in the celica forum.

True searching through posts creates patience and forces re-education and reading.

But a lot of the post are kinda vague.
i.e. years for exhaust manifold and make to get off.
types of turbos to use, safe psi to run,
why to piggyback or not.
Just a thought