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Old 01-06-2005, 01:51 PM   #1 (permalink)
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4afe to 4a(f)ge to spun rob bearing to 4aF(g)ze

long story short, i bought a high comp 16v head off a 4age along with small port manifold (no-tvis) and everything needed to swap heads (liked the comp ratio of the 4afe bottem end) and about 2 weeks before i had time off to do the swap i spun a rod bearing while doing a mountain run with freinds...so basically i had $400+ worth of 4age parts and no botetm end...so i had the idea...

i bought a 4agze front clip outta a AE92/AE101......heres my post about it on automotiveforums.com i wrote this and dont wanna right it again...

i had a project on putting a 4age head on my 4afe, it was a possibility untill the day i decided to go on a mountain run with a few friends and spin a rod bearing while climing a hill.... the car is basicaly undrivable i dont know how it made it home but i punctured a small hole in the bottem of the block...ill post up pics when i get my comp to work (college comp)
i bought a 4agze outta a toyota levine...ae101/ae92

im gunna use the bottem end and supercharger on the levine...but use the F head on my celica

reasons being
1) supercharger on that thing sucks and robs an assload of tourqe, and we all know F heads give a plentiful supply f tourqe
2)i need this car to be riliable, get DECENT gas mialage (it has a supercharger, nuff said)
3)i HAVE TO pass smog, the new motors head dosent come with and is not set up for an EGR vavle witch is needed to pass smog

everything matches up, i know this from my previous experience with my 4age head i was gunna put on...ALL bolt patterns are the same, exhaust manifold and small port manifolds...i might use the aftermarket G hearder i bought and the SMall port non tvis intake manifold i still have but i dont know...as far as everything else goes it should be fairley simple, the tranny i got is a 5 speed LSD tranney so ill be putting that in as well as new half shafts (cost 70 for passenger and 60 for driver, it was somthing like 135 total, ouch) everything put me back around $2000, so far

one problem also is that the 4agze have 7 steam vent "ribs'" to vent excess heat/steam, the F head has none...theres a chance i would crack the block if it ever got really hott...so ill probably need to get a race ready radiator to cool my shit down better

theres only one real problem im having, i have never wroked with asupercharger be4 and that could cause a problem with the swap

thats not as expensive as you think to tell u tha truth
motor+ tranney+ wirering harness(not needed im using f head) and fuel pump - $1200
new half shafts-$130
Already had a walbroh 255PL supra tt pump $150
Need to either use 4agze injectors or get aftermarket injectors- $0
buy all new belts witch should be around- $100
I need to find a good SAFC fuel contorller (if anyones sees one with lcd screen and is fairely nice PM ME)-$250 +
A racing Radiator-$200+
As well as get a boost controller...to tell u the truth i will probably need to re chip the ecu to compensate with all the fuel being dumped in there...either that or just use the fuel controller to give it a shit load of more fuel


if anyone has any ?'s or comments or suggestions please feel free to PM me

after the swap im expecing aroudn 200+ hp becuase of custom exhaust header new injectors and ima up the boost a little...im expecting ALOT more tourqe outta the thing, it came with 130 TQ and im expecgting at least 180, to tell u the truth ill probaly have more but i dont liek to get my hopes up...cant wait till my 4 day vacation in febuary to do the swap
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Old 01-21-2005, 12:16 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Putting an F head on a G block and set up is a bad idea.
Angle of the releaf cuts in the pistons are not the same. And the F head will not flow like the G head. Start gagging it with a charger and you will get some poor results.
The cams are not the same on a n/a compared to a forced induction.
You wont like the results.

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