Celica GT-R? - Toyota Nation Forum : Toyota Car and Truck Forums

RakeRon · 03-11-2005, 01:17 AM

Now I've never heard of the Celica GT-R until GT4 came out and I actually took the time to look through all the cars it had to offer. When I found the GT-R actually existed I began wondering if it ever came to the USDM in one form or another. The big difference from what I can see is basicly a better suspension and Four-Wheel Steering (4WS). So was 4WS an option on the Celicas here or was the idea just totally dropped and if not how reliable was it? And would a USDM Celica GT-S be capable of a 4WS conversion? Assuming they didn't completely change the rear end for the USDM of course.

Edit: Just found out the GT-R is also turbo charged, but still FWD. Figure it must be a small, probly non-intercooled turbo because it only puts out 165ps compared to the 220ps the GT-Four puts out.

Tommy · 03-11-2005, 01:20 AM

all of the cars in GT4 are real cars in one way or another, either prototypes or whatever, most just werent available in the NA market.

As for a 4WS conversion, i think it would be just as feasible as a 4WS conversion on any other car, wether it was offered with it or not...

basically if you want 4WS, find an old prelude, 3000gt, or i think some MX-6's had it here too.

RakeRon · 03-11-2005, 01:25 AM

Oh I know its feasable, but the thing is reliabilty and how hard it would be to install. Some people say 4WS is great while others say its a pain especially when it gets old. I figured if you can maintain it, it won't leak and mess up on ya. Also, what would be needed for it besides the obvious? Is there a special computer and harness needed or would all I need is to run a steering fluid line back to the rear powersteering box?

Tommy · 03-11-2005, 01:34 AM

I seriously dont think you can do it. expcially when you think about where would you get parts for this conversion?

you cant even convert a GT-S to a GT-4, and there are plenty of GT-4 parts here.

fredk · 03-13-2005, 03:41 PM

jack left town huh?

ST185 · 03-13-2005, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by RakeRon

Now I've never heard of the Celica GT-R until GT4 came out and I actually took the time to look through all the cars it had to offer. When I found the GT-R actually existed I began wondering if it ever came to the USDM in one form or another. The big difference from what I can see is basicly a better suspension and Four-Wheel Steering (4WS). So was 4WS an option on the Celicas here or was the idea just totally dropped and if not how reliable was it? And would a USDM Celica GT-S be capable of a 4WS conversion? Assuming they didn't completely change the rear end for the USDM of course.

Edit: Just found out the GT-R is also turbo charged, but still FWD. Figure it must be a small, probly non-intercooled turbo because it only puts out 165ps compared to the 220ps the GT-Four puts out.

The GTR (ST183) is NOT turbocharged. It has 3sge. (not 3sgte)

lcarocha · 03-13-2005, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ST185

The GTR (ST183) is NOT turbocharged. It has 3sge. (not 3sgte)

ST182 and 183 were all N/A and equipped with the 2nd Gen 3S-GE. Any turbo GT-R is just a conversion or custom job.

layzienoy · 03-13-2005, 05:03 PM

im not 100% sure but i do believe that there was a celica with 4ws released to the us

cant remember exactly though

someoone on another forum was talking about it being on their car and that there was a switch on the dash that controlled it so that you ould turn it on and off

ST185 · 03-13-2005, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by layzienoy

im not 100% sure but i do believe that there was a celica with 4ws released to the us

cant remember exactly though

someoone on another forum was talking about it being on their car and that there was a switch on the dash that controlled it so that you ould turn it on and off

I'm 100% sure that 4ws Celica (GTR) has never been released to US market.

lcarocha · 03-14-2005, 08:46 AM

GT-R was never sold outside of the Asian marked, not even in Europe, The ones you can find in Europe, more specifically the U.K., are all imports.I have a bunch of mates who happen to own GT-R and they have one hell of a time finding car specific parts (usually the rear wheel steering motors)