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Old 02-22-2007, 06:54 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Re: Humans' beef with livestock: a warmer planet

In article <E5mdnYtBxZjTGUDYnZ2dnUVZ_u-unZ2d@comcast.com>,
"n5hsr" <n5hsr@comcast.net> wrote:
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> "dbu," <nspam@nojoke.com> wrote in message
> news:nspam-65A27B.03515722022007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...[color=green]
> > In article <sb-dnT9OyZ93n0DYnZ2dnUVZ_vGinZ2d@comcast.com>,
> > "n5hsr" <n5hsr@comcast.net> wrote:
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> >> "dbu," <nspam@nojoke.com> wrote in message
> >> news:nspam-61BC2D.20041021022007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
> >> > In article <pZSdnW2VINCzckHYnZ2dnUVZ_q6vnZ2d@comcast.com>,
> >> > "n5hsr" <n5hsr@comcast.net> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> "dbu," <nspam@nojoke.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:nspam-AA075D.07593121022007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
> >> >> > In article <45dc4e92@kcnews01>,
> >> >> > "C. E. White" <cewhite3@removemindspring.com> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> "dbu," <nspam@nojoke.com> wrote in message
> >> >> >> news:nspam-05241D.11134920022007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > Ed,
> >> >> >> > I don't think anybody is attacking anybody. It's only making the
> >> >> >> > case
> >> >> >> > against cattle that's all. Take if for what ever you like. Or
> >> >> >> > just
> >> >> >> > forget about it. No need to get all wrapped around the axle.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "Making the case against cattle" isn't attacking anyone? I don't
> >> >> >> see
> >> >> >> it that way at all.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> It seems to me that people often pull out the "environment" card
> >> >> >> when
> >> >> >> arguing against some activity or behavior when the real reasons are
> >> >> >> completely different.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> In the original article, a claim was made that "dietary changes
> >> >> >> could
> >> >> >> make more difference than trading in a standard sedan for a more
> >> >> >> efficient hybrid car, which reduces annual CO2 emissions by roughly
> >> >> >> one ton a year." They researcher were carefully picking their
> >> >> >> comparisons to make it look like cutting out meat would make a
> >> >> >> large
> >> >> >> difference in greenhouse gas emissions. The statement borders on a
> >> >> >> lie. If you changed from a Yaris to a Prius you would only save
> >> >> >> about
> >> >> >> 1.1 tons of CO2, but almost any other comparison would result in
> >> >> >> much
> >> >> >> greater saving (you would save 1.8 tons by going from a standard
> >> >> >> Civic
> >> >> >> to a Civic Hybrid or 3.2 tons by changing from a Camry to a
> >> >> >> Prius -
> >> >> >> assuming 15,000 miles per year). The researchers do have plausible
> >> >> >> deniability since they said "roughly" and there are comparisons
> >> >> >> that
> >> >> >> actually only save "roughly" 1 ton per year. However, it was clear
> >> >> >> to
> >> >> >> me that the intent of the article was to place animal production in
> >> >> >> the worst possible light. I consider this an attack. Maybe you
> >> >> >> don't
> >> >> >> see it that way. I do. In defense of animal production, I was
> >> >> >> pointing
> >> >> >> out (or trying to), that other changes would be a lot more
> >> >> >> significant.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I wonder how much CO2 is emitted into the atmosphere as a result of
> >> >> >> the publishing of the Christian Science Monitor?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Ed
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Your farts are far worse :)
> >> >> > --
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> I eat meat. I have to, I'm not allowed to eat beans or nuts. I
> >> >> bought
> >> >> my
> >> >> dad a T-shirt that said "World's Largest Source of Natural Gas." He
> >> >> had
> >> >> similar problems.
> >> >>
> >> >> Charles of Schaumburg
> >> >
> >> > Hey, nothin like a good fart in the morning, :)
> >> > --
> >> >
> >>
> >> Smells like victory! (No wait, that was another smell)
> >>
> >>
> >> The Fart that Startles!
> >>
> >> Charles of Schaumburg[/color]
> >
> > Yea, that was gasoline smell that smells like victory.
> > --
> >[/color]
>
> Too bad we can't use napalm on some of the problems in Iraq. They want to
> die a martyr's death and see 72 virgins? Toast 'em!
>
> Charles of Schaumburg
>
> "Now I want you to remember that no bastard ever won a war by dying for his
> country. You won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his
> country."
>
> Gen. George S Patton Jr, 31 May 1944[/color]

Yep. Now days we have to take that one outhouse behind two or three
other houses without so much as cracking a window. Pinpoint bombing.

I say let's just drop a GBU-43 and get it over with.
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