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Old 02-15-2006, 01:25 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Way To Save Gas And Gain Power

Hello,

I was browsing for on ebay for stuff for my car and I came across this.


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...RK%3AMEWA%3AIT




Has anyone ever dealt with one of these. IT seems like a buch of bullshit yet it's very tempting to buy because we all know we need to save at the pump, especially out here in Socal.
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Old 02-15-2006, 02:33 PM   #2 (permalink)
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No. It will not do anything except maybe restrict airflow. You want to save gas, get a drop in K&N filter. But that doesn't filter as well as paper filters. So it's a trade off.

Another thing you could do is remove everything that you don't need in the car to reduce the weight.
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It's a miracle !!!

Come on, you would get better gas mileage by removing your spare tire and some of your seats from the car.
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Old 02-17-2006, 08:58 AM   #4 (permalink)
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If auto manufacturers could put a tiny piece of aluminum in the intake path to increase performance AND fuel economy that dramatically, it would already be there. Or, looking at it another way, if it really worked, they wouldn't sell it to consumers, but would license it to auto manufacturers and get REALLY rich. Another dead giveaway that it doesn't work is that there doesn't seem to be a white paper describing the tests, just the summary of amazing results (a test done in 1994):
http://www.fuelmiser.com/liphardt_testing.html
You could very easily get these results by doing the "baseline" test on a cold engine, and the "fuel miser" tests on a warm engine.
And here is a good article describing the effects of turbulence on fuel economy and power.
http://www.fuelsaving.info/turbulence.htm
Of particular interest is the point that increasing turbulence in the intake can slightly increase fuel economy, but CUTS power, and Mercedes Benz designers who have experimented with increasing turbulence can get perhaps a 2% increase in economy with a system that allows them to maintain power under heavy acceleration by retracting the fins at those times.
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^ Isn't that similar to why Toyota uses TVIS. Is that function still in use?
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The Matrix is already considered to be a fuel efficient car (STD and XR) for its type. I don't understand why you would want to save additionnal gaz as it is.
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beacause I have the xrs with a short ram and 2.5 custom exhaust and it burns gas like a muthafuker!! its not gas efficient at all! it burns as much gas as my 92 V6 camry. Why, i dont even gun it!
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More air in + more air out = more power. More power usually = less fuel ecomony. That said, more air in + more air out = better fuel economy while cruising. You screwed your fuel economy the second you started bolting stuff on. There is a reason the system is restrictive from the factory.
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There also is the old saying: "If it sounds to good to be true...then it probably is..."
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