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Old 06-17-2006, 06:54 PM   #1 (permalink)
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So I have yet another question for everyone...I as some of you know picked up my 2006 XRS about 3 weeks ago...and though it isn't due for a chance yet I plan to switch my XRS to Synthetic Oil when I get my first oil change...First question...is there mostly positive benefits to switching to Synthetic? Personally I've never heard any negatives about synthetic(excluding cost obviously!)...And my second question is which brand of Oil is better than the others? I am a lifetime member of Consumer Reports and I can't find any type of research on their website or magazines...So I was curious as to which Synthetic Oil performs best with Toyotas and more importantly the Matrix XRS...thanks everyone!
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There are only benifits to switching to Synthetic. With regards to general perfomance of synthetic oil, it will "flash" at a higher temperature (which is a good thing should your engine have hot spots) and its "pour" point is lower that conventional oil (won't hardenned as much when it freezes outside).

Mobil 1 is the one that most people compare their oil too. Not all oils are "truly" synthetic. Some are based on conventional oil that is "super" processed. Hence, beware.
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Consumer reports found no difference in oil types in New York City taxis (heavy use, lots of miles over a short time). The results are summarized nicely here:
http://www.triumphspitfire.com/Oiltest.html
I remember reading the report a few years ago in the magazine, but can't find it on their web site.
The upshot is that they tried lots of different oils in NYC taxis and ran them 60,000 miles at either 3000 or 6000 mile interval changes, then tore the engines down, and found no significant differences in wear for any oil (regular or synthetic, any brand) or between 3000 or 6000 mile change intervals. This test, of course, doesn't directly apply to cars that are driven on short trips with only a few thousand miles a year, where the age of the oil is more important than the miles. I don't know if anyone has done that test.

Here is another link with a more detailed description of the test (a copy of the original article):
http://www.xs11.com/stories/croil96.htm
It says the test results were published in 1996.

Synthetic definitely flows better at really low temps (important below 0 F), and resists scorching (important if you have a turbo). I don't have a turbo, and I have a garage (even in New England, it isn't below 0 F in the afternoon when I am parked outside), so I use regular oil. I used synthetic in my previous car (before the garage) and it made a noticeable difference in how the car sounded in the first minute after a really cold start. It sounded BAD on regular oil below -10 F, but later on synthetic it sounded perfectly normal at -18 and drove perfectly normal after 1 minute of warming up.

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I have seen some tests with mixed results but the majority showed that synthetic showed a slight horsepower increase over conventional oil but the differences were so small that it is a moot point. We're talking about fractions of horsepower here.... Nothing you will ever feel....
If you run a turbo or your car is exposed to really cold temps, synthetic oil is justified but for the cost, you may as well use regular oil in your basic N/A four-banger.
Just for the record, I am using synthetic Mobil-1 5W-30 in my 4A-FE
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Hi there,

The 2 synthetic oils that I've heard the most about are Mobil1 and Castrol Syntec. I've personally used Syntec, as my oil guy had said that it conformed to the (apparently) stringent european synthetic oil standards, and the high-end auto manufacturers tend to use it in their vehicles. Both of these are also priced pretty well the same.

BTW, I like the Syntec, and would use it again...in fact am planning on using it again in my XR.

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