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Old 09-28-2006, 09:26 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hey guys I;m a newB to this forum. I just purchased a 06 matrix Xr. I am looking to customize it. I am think about an intake. any recommendation?
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Old 09-28-2006, 11:28 PM   #2 (permalink)
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welcome! been in that situation about a month ago and you're in the reigh place! I attached the link that was related to what you were asking for. spend some time reading it, you are going to learn a lot from it...esp. from mistamatrix
I myself installed a TRD CAI on my solar yellow 04' Matrix XR...once again, welcome and have fun with it!
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Old 09-29-2006, 11:19 PM   #3 (permalink)
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thanks alot man for the information.
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Old 09-30-2006, 02:29 PM   #4 (permalink)
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You'll learn nothing from me. I just google everything and pass off the info.
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You'll learn nothing from me. I just google everything and pass off the info.
i would say google it but it's more believable if i got the info from a person or named a person... you are so humble, admit it...i learned it from you...ahahahahaha!
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Installing a CAI is a double-edged sword. On the one hand, there is better flow and that affects the high-end performance (e.g., in the 5-6k rpm range). However, my experience shows that CAIs almost always result in low-end torque loss...and that's where we spend most of our time in the city/highway. Plus, most CAI kits don't do such a great job keeping the air cold. Heat soakage is a common problem for after-market CAIs. If you're serious about a CAI kit, you should make sure to get one that is very well sealed from the engine compartment as well as one that has a direct air feed to the front of the bumper.
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Old 09-30-2006, 07:58 PM   #7 (permalink)
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All CAI's for the Matrix are pretty much as far away from the engine and up to the front bumper. The low end torque loss is minimal. You do feel a slight bog from a dig but big deal rev it up a bit more and it's gone.
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All CAI's for the Matrix are pretty much as far away from the engine and up to the front bumper. The low end torque loss is minimal. You do feel a slight bog from a dig but big deal rev it up a bit more and it's gone.
Thanks for the info, Mista. I read on another forum, a test that some guys conducted. They stuck a temp gauge to the inside of their CAI and took temps at:
a) initial start-up
b) 5 min running at highway
c) at engine turn-off
d) sitting with engine off for 10 min

At each of these time intervals, the CAI compartment showed significantly higher temps than inside the OEM airbox.

The other consideration for CAIs is the filter element itself. It's all about flow efficiency and filtration efficiency when the filter is loaded. If I were to install a CAI kit for MY matrix, I'd be interested in seeing some scientific/engineering measurements on flow and filtration efficiency.
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Apexi air filters apparently have had the best results.

http://www.mkiv.com/techarticles/filters_test/2/
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Apexi air filters apparently have had the best results.

http://www.mkiv.com/techarticles/filters_test/2/
Thx Mista. Always helpful.

I noticed the Apexi filter is a dry one. That's good b/c you don't risk messing up the MAF sensor with too much filter oil. However, I do question the claimed hp gains. 13-14hp? come on...who's fooling who? There's no way, a filter alone will get you that kinda hp. The true test would be to dyno the same car, on the same day on the same dyno before and after the CAI install.
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aye, mista...have i put you in the spot..hehehehehe!
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how are the trd cai systems. I dont want to void the warranty, but then again i do want to gain some power.
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Old 10-01-2006, 10:30 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Thx Mista. Always helpful.

I noticed the Apexi filter is a dry one. That's good b/c you don't risk messing up the MAF sensor with too much filter oil. However, I do question the claimed hp gains. 13-14hp? come on...who's fooling who? There's no way, a filter alone will get you that kinda hp. The true test would be to dyno the same car, on the same day on the same dyno before and after the CAI install.
If you check the root of the link to the website, it's a Supra website. Whether the hp gain is true or not, I don't really care. I guess the point of it was to show that the Apexi comes out on top.

But you're right. If you're skeptical, dyno your own car pre-CAI and post-CAI installed. For most, the manufacturer's testing is enough. But note, there have been Matrix owners in the past that have dyno'd before and after and the CAI does show gains.
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Old 10-02-2006, 09:41 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Injen has dyno tests on both xr and xrs.

XR the post 8hp at the front wheels with their cai

http://www.injen.com/webpages/testin...les/rd2065.jpg

XRS 12hp at the frong wheels

http://www.injen.com/webpages/testin...les/rd2075.jpg

i would be skeptical as well but u would think that injen would be a reliable source

Also if you look at the results their is a gain in overall torque from low rpm up to high rpm

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I have other dynos for Vibes with the K&N from a magazine that modified one. They do help all across the board.

Problem with your situation is you have an 06 DBW. Your only option without modification is the Cosmo intake. I would get that, and then get an AEM Dryflow filter #21-202DK for the intake. You should be good to go at that point.

No matter what the HP gain....an intake gives you much better throttle response. It did on my Matrix, and it has on my V8 truck. The throttle response alone is well worth the purchase. The increase in HP and the slightly better gas milage are just a bonus.

Before any of you start flaming on the mpg comment...its a fact. I got 3mpg better on my Silverado when I put on the intake. We removed it and reinstalled it several times to verify this. We also installed it on another truck and recorded the outcome on that truck as well...an average of 3mpg. Not much, but it does help a little.
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