Ok, so I see on Ebay there is a person selling turbo charge kits for the Toyota Matrix and I have to ask is this possible? Although I love my car, I regret the decision to buy it only because I now carry a bit more knowledge of cars and I realize that there is only so much it can offer. A turbo kit would be great for me to expand on my car but I'm worried of what the risks are, if any. I've read a lot about engine life and such and I don't know enough about cars right now to determine if this would be just a bad idea. I'm not looking to race on a drag strip or anything, but it would be nice to leave the cocky drivers in their civics in the dust now and again.
Ok, so I see on Ebay there is a person selling turbo charge kits for the Toyota Matrix and I have to ask is this possible? Although I love my car, I regret the decision to buy it only because I now carry a bit more knowledge of cars and I realize that there is only so much it can offer. A turbo kit would be great for me to expand on my car but I'm worried of what the risks are, if any. I've read a lot about engine life and such and I don't know enough about cars right now to determine if this would be just a bad idea. I'm not looking to race on a drag strip or anything, but it would be nice to leave the cocky drivers in their civics in the dust now and again.
I was willing to give you a long and informative post until I read your last sentence that made you sound stupid. Number one, what is your hatred towards Civic owner? I was one... Number two, a Civic has more potential (cheaper to go faster) and well just look at their tuning community. Until you can say stuff like my Matrix does 10 seconds in the quarter mile I'm not impressed. You need to read more and yes you can turbo any car, depends on the kit.
I totally agree with w302, i have a 1999 audi A4 18t that is running a KO4 turbo that i have run the 1/4 mile in in 12.6, now i have spent many years tuning and learning about the car and as fast as it is, a civic properly tuned will eat me alive. one thing about "hooking up" any car is there are always risks and usually will break the bank, but don't hate on anybody because what kind of car they drive, if the matrix was not meant to be strip car, or a rally edition car, they would have relased a model for those reasons otherwise. if you want to really go that route i would suggest buying a mazad3 speed
ummm....where did he say he hated them?
He called them "cocky" but that's all. It might have been too general of a comment, but come on....you know what he was getting at....geez. People modding civics have tonnes of things to choose from, us matrix drivers are fairly limited.
Yea, with the same amount of money put into a Matrix and a Civic I can make a Civic faster than the Matrix if both had similar baseline numbers.
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but it would be nice to leave the cocky drivers in their civics in the dust now and again.
I have no idea why the OT even bought up the Civic put down, maybe to sound cool? (Not likely), maybe because this is a Toyota forum and all Honda drivers/owners are cocky (kinna narrow minded thinking) or who knows. But its unnecessary to bring up that comment. Does it bother me? No not really, but if people wish to remain ignorant of hating/flaming/against youname it than I'll let them be. Generalizing FTL
I think everybody looked a little too far into this post. It was meant as a straight up question with a little pro-Toyota push at the end, that gets blown out of proportion by the first reply and taken away like I'm some kind of prejudice person. I said "leave the cocky drivers in their civics in the dust now and again" not "burn in hell, those civic driving bastards!" Anyway, thanks for all the replies that have absolutely nothing to do with the post. I thank bc toy for the back up, at least he sees where I was coming from. It's all good, I don't let this stuff get to me. Sitting on the idea overnight I figured I wasn't going to shell out the money for the kit anyway. I'll take my time, buy cold air intake, magnaflow cat-back exhaust and maybe new headers and see where that takes me. Next time I'll just stick to the questions. I don't want to offend anyone.
Last edited by NtrdTheMatrix; 07-06-2007 at 02:46 PM.
Yea it was blown out of proportion a lil bit. No I did not see you as prejudace but failed to comprehend why you had to throw in the Civic name. I'm just a bit tired of seeing all these useless posts saying ricer this ricer that and its always associated with Hondas. You didn't say it directly but its implied, otherwise you could have said Kia or Hyundai or Ford. Kinna pointless. Civics have more tuning potential. Since we don't know the year, type, trim Civic that you encounter or will encounter....could be a stock 92 Civic CX or an 07 Civic Si putting down 500whp. But what do I know? Its not like I grew up around modding Toyotas and Hondas.
And it wasn't like you were going to turbo your Matrix anyways, your post really reflects your initiative. Those who do really turbo their cars usually don't ask such questions, they take the initiative to go out and do their own research like using the search forum and not expect to be spoonfed.
I apologize if you are butthurt by my comments but I prefer not to sugar coat things.
No worries, man. Like I said, I don't let things get to me. I got a lot to learn and perhaps I should have watched my wording a little bit. After all, people take their cars seriously and an attack on one can cause an ego to cut loose. No big deal. As it says under my username, I'm a car noob. I've got a lot to learn. I have lots of questions about cars and really no one to turn to. I joined an autoworld forum and no one replied to any question I had. The general population for that place was too broad, no one cared to answer my obviously novice questions. Since I'm not modding a STI, Evo or a Mustang I guess I wasn't worth talking to. That's why I sought out a Toyota forum.
I think everybody looked a little too far into this post. It was meant as a straight up question with a little pro-Toyota push at the end, that gets blown out of proportion by the first reply and taken away like I'm some kind of prejudice person. I said "leave the cocky drivers in their civics in the dust now and again" not "burn in hell, those civic driving bastards!" Anyway, thanks for all the replies that have absolutely nothing to do with the post. I thank bc toy for the back up, at least he sees where I was coming from. It's all good, I don't let this stuff get to me. Sitting on the idea overnight I figured I wasn't going to shell out the money for the kit anyway. I'll take my time, buy cold air intake, magnaflow cat-back exhaust and maybe new headers and see where that takes me. Next time I'll just stick to the questions. I don't want to offend anyone.
I know what you're talking about. I have a trix with the rest of ya and people still think im ricing, blah blah. Its all about perception of what was worded. Unfortunately there is no way for tone of voice to work itself into text...I knew exactly what ya meant, and dont take this the wrong way anyone for fucks sake, but someone putting just the muffler with a 4" outlet from 3" piping onto thier exhaust, and cutting thier stock springs to lower thier car is not tuning. I am pretty sure thats what you were getting at with the civic comment. i see it all around here with vee-dubs and hondas, toyotas w/e...But yes, start off with catback, CAI or SRI, and stuff like that. For someone who's on a limited budget such as myself (gotta love bills!), its all ya can do to increase power for a small amount of cash flow. A model specific forum is the place to be as other people have done, or are thinking of the same things as you, as opposed to a 'general tuning discussion.
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Ok, so I see on Ebay there is a person selling turbo charge kits for the Toyota Matrix and I have to ask is this possible? Although I love my car, I regret the decision to buy it only because I now carry a bit more knowledge of cars and I realize that there is only so much it can offer. A turbo kit would be great for me to expand on my car but I'm worried of what the risks are, if any. I've read a lot about engine life and such and I don't know enough about cars right now to determine if this would be just a bad idea. I'm not looking to race on a drag strip or anything, but it would be nice to leave the cocky drivers in their civics in the dust now and again.
I wouldn't go for all the expense of turbo-charging your Matrix just so that you can blow off those few cocky civic drivers. Depending upon what civic driver messes with you, you may just be able to blow them off with your bone stock base Matrix...I know I had blown off a few when I had my 05 Corolla ce (automatic even). Just remember, no matter what you may do to your car, there is ALWAYS somebody out there with a faster car. It's a never ending battle to try staying on top, and it can cost you tens of thousands of dollars, even more than the original value of your car. If I were you, I would just go with a good after market intake, i.e., Injen Brand, and also go to your local privately own exhaust system specialist to come up with a less restrictive exhaust system. This way your car runs a bit better than stock, sounds better, gives better fuel mileage, and the cost will most likely be in the neighborhood of $500, and you will have the peace of mind that your car is still as reliable as it was when you bought it originally.
Thanks for the comments PA Firefighter & Georgenfla. Yeah, I've pretty much decided that I'm going to go with a CAI (Injen) and Cat-Back Exhaust (Magnaflow) for starters. Roughly $800 worth of stuff right there. I also would like to replace the headers in my car as well, seems like that would be as much performance enhancing I can afford. Once that gets done, then I will finish it off with a nice set of rims I found (edgeracing.com). That should keep me busy for a while (financially) but if I am able to come up with more money, I'd like to get a body kit too. Boys and their toys, its never ending! vbmenu_register("postmenu_1836083", true);
Thanks for the comments w203. Yeah, I've pretty much decided that I'm going to go with a CAI (Injen) and Cat-Back Exhaust (Magnaflow) for starters. Roughly $800 worth of stuff right there. I also would like to replace the headers in my car as well, seems like that would be as much performance enhancing I can afford. Once that gets done, then I will finish it off with a nice set of rims I found (edgeracing.com). That should keep me busy for a while (financially) but if I am able to come up with more money, I'd like to get a body kit too. Boys and their toys, its never ending! vbmenu_register("postmenu_1836083", true);
Power adders consist of FI and NA, there are tons you can do. Its too complex and not recommened for someone who are not experienced or have an idea. Even the bolt on turbo kits I don't recommend since if something was to go wrong you would have no idea. For 800 you can get a nitrous kit and gain more power than the bolt ons can even achieve. But as most things they have their pros and their cons. Its really up to you and what you want out of the car. If you have the knowledge you can piece together your own turbo kit for 1.5-2.5k. Find out the pros and cons of turbo, supercharger, NA and nitrous and see which one you prefer. Better to plan out than to change plans later. But if you have your heart set on the I/H/E route, to get the full potential out of the bolt ons tune the car.
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Originally Posted by NtrdTheMatrix
No worries, man. Like I said, I don't let things get to me. I got a lot to learn and perhaps I should have watched my wording a little bit. After all, people take their cars seriously and an attack on one can cause an ego to cut loose. No big deal. As it says under my username, I'm a car noob. I've got a lot to learn. I have lots of questions about cars and really no one to turn to. I joined an autoworld forum and no one replied to any question I had. The general population for that place was too broad, no one cared to answer my obviously novice questions. Since I'm not modding a STI, Evo or a Mustang I guess I wasn't worth talking to. That's why I sought out a Toyota forum.
I know everyone starts off being a newbie, even me. I still consider myself a noob. But if you take the initiative to perhaps show some effort that you do want to learn and such I'm sure you would get better responses. Heck if you even posted a link to a turbo asking if it'll work I would have gladly helped.
Considering Civics have a much bigger aftermarket support than the Matrix, there's no question that a well tuned FI Civic can beat even an FI Matrix. Nuff said.
If you're looking to go the FI route there NtrdTheMatrix, look into kits that have already worked for some Matrix owners. Check out www.matrixowners.com and it's For Sale forum. Also, check out the Forced Induction forum dedicated to what works or not for the Trix when it comes to FI.
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