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Old 06-18-2008, 05:23 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Question Premium required in XRS?

Have a fiend that JUST bought a used Trix XRS. Doe she HAVE to put Premium in it with these prices or will regular do the trick just less HP?
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Old 06-18-2008, 06:08 PM   #2 (permalink)
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the 2ZZ-GE must run on 91 octane or higher gas. this is premium, the expensive stuff. the low octane forces the motor to retard timing, and that cuts back on power. this is not a good thing for the motor. the lower octane in the car will also cause worse gas mileage.
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Old 06-18-2008, 08:41 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Have a fiend that JUST bought a used Trix XRS. Doe she HAVE to put Premium in it with these prices or will regular do the trick just less HP?
I have had the gas jockies put regular in my xrs even though I asked for premium and the car ran reasonably well. I did not take it over 6,000 rpm.

These days I run midgrade and have been getting good mpgs

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Iwouldn't recommend regular mid grade is more than OK for me.
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Old 06-18-2008, 09:50 PM   #4 (permalink)
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My last 8 tanks (since early May) I've downgraded to 89 but have not revved up higher than 6000rpm. I've avg'd 30mpg. Prior to that (Jan-April) I was at 26-27mpg. I probably won't find myself going as far to downgrade to 87. As long as she's not hitting the limiter daily (which I doubt) you're fine dropping to at least 89.
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Old 06-19-2008, 11:03 AM   #5 (permalink)
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yes 89 is ok...jsut make sure you don't push your car too hard...always shift less than 3000 rpm to save gas as well...
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Old 06-20-2008, 04:44 PM   #6 (permalink)
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But then you're wasting an XRS's potential! It's meant to rev over 6800 RPM to engage Lift.
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if your friend didnt want the added performance, then why bother with the XRS? at that point go with a base or XR model with the weaker motor, but get better mileage, and do it on cheaper gas.
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Old 07-10-2008, 10:49 AM   #8 (permalink)
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it's your car, risk it if you'd like but when the owner's manual says premium is "required", not "recommended", it means something ... you're risking trouble in the long run using 89 or lower in an engine were 91 is "required" and with modern engine mgmt systems you may not even know you're developing a problem til its too late ... false economy.
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All you have to do is read sticker on the gas cap access door, look at it on the inside. It Reads; ""Use 91 Octane Premium Fuel Only""
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yes 89 is ok...jsut make sure you don't push your car too hard...always shift less than 3000 rpm to save gas as well...
I have used 89 octane. No problems at all.

Will occasionally go with 91 octane when gas prices drop. However, cannot say I noticed much difference. But then again, I rarely ever get past 6,000 rpm.
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Old 12-13-2008, 10:02 PM   #11 (permalink)
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All you have to do is read sticker on the gas cap access door, look at it on the inside. It Reads; ""Use 91 Octane Premium Fuel Only""
that's right ... and folks don't apparently realize that the damage won't be sudden or catastrophic if you don't use the right grade, but over time you may see the symptoms when it's too late to do anything ... false economy.
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It's more likely something would happen to mistas bumper than his engine running 89 octane.
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93 or nothing!

Ill run out off fuel and tow my car home before Iput 87-89 in! and 91 sucks!
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Old 12-14-2008, 08:23 AM   #14 (permalink)
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It's more likely something would happen to mistas bumper than his engine running 89 octane.
your crystal ball must be in good shape ... and in any case, the diff. in cost between an bumper nick and engine damage is big enough that I'll skip the false economies (cheap gas, cheap oil filters) ... I know a shop owner who has seen that kind of damage.

It kinda comes down to the old saying "if you want to play, you must pay." If you can't afford premium gas, you shouldn't buy a car that requires (as opp. to recommends) premium gas.
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Old 12-15-2008, 03:44 PM   #15 (permalink)
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I have used 89 octane. No problems at all.

Will occasionally go with 91 octane when gas prices drop. However, cannot say I noticed much difference. But then again, I rarely ever get past 6,000 rpm.

I have used 89 as well, could not tell any difference. I like the premium fuels because they are supposed to put additives in that clean your engine as you drive.
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