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Old 09-03-2009, 01:27 AM   #1 (permalink)
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misfire cyl #1

My "05"Matrix has diagnostic code po301,also po441,po455,301 being cyl misfire cyl#1 441 evap incorrect purge flow,455 is evap system leak (gross leak/no flow) I have 230,000 km. At low idle it stumbles but at higher rev runs fine. Barely any power loss,if any.Fuel economy is slightly worse. Any Ideas,anyone Puleease!
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How does the spark plugs look? Have they been replaced yet? If they have been replaced, what did you replace them with?

Where all those codes set at the same time, or just what was stored in the ECM at that time?

The EVAP codes are separate from the misfire code - could be anything from not tightening the gas cap enough (gasket on gas cap would be worn out), to a severe issue with the EVAP system (vacuum leak, damaged VSV, electricals, etc.)

Since you mentioned stubbling at idle and a slight fuel economy loss - I would look at plugs first. This engine is sensitive to plug gap and type of plugs used. OEM plugs are fine wire iridium, long life plugs. Replacing them with something else, will still be OK, but their lifespan could be considerable different. Even different iridium plugs have different lifespans. OEM ones are good for up to 120K miles (~193K km) - some aftermarket replacements are good only up to 30K miles (~48K km) or less.

You could also have a very dirty, gummed up throttle body and dirty MAF/IAT sensor in the airbox. Many have reported significantly improved idle quality after having those cleaned.

Also a good idea to reset the ECM and see if those codes come back - especially after you undertake any tuneup of the engine. This will make sure the engine will "relearn" fuel trims based on the now clean sensors/components and if a CEL pops up - you are assured that there are no past codes in memory to through off any diagnostic work.
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It could be the coils. Trying switching the coil of the cylinder thats misfiring with another cylinder. If the misfire follows the coil you need to change your coils (I suggest doing all of them at the same time).
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Old 09-07-2009, 02:34 PM   #4 (permalink)
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thanks,for the help!

I had changed my plugs@about 150000 km, when i checked them the gap was way out,guess you get what you pay for! That didn't fix the problem though,will try cleaning throttle body etc,as well as swapping coils. Thanks for your help,much appreciated,will keep you's informed of any progress!
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I had changed my plugs@about 150000 km, when i checked them the gap was way out,guess you get what you pay for! That didn't fix the problem though,will try cleaning throttle body etc,as well as swapping coils. Thanks for your help,much appreciated,will keep you's informed of any progress!
what kind of spark plugs are you using? cuz alot of people i know are having problems with autolites, like getting misfires, and that kind of stuff, but NGK's are always a good choice IMO
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