Help please ! Matrix AWD rear wheel stud replacement

[bobfur]

Arrrgh !
Dealer estimates replacing rear wheel stud on my '05 XR AWD at $370. Labor only !
Each stud is merely another $6.00
They further note that damage to wheel bearings may be an issue and the wheel bearing set is $580. !!!!
So after taxes I am looking at $1,000. to replace a bloody wheel stud !!!
They claim to have double checked and stand firm.
Can this be for real ? This car has only 41,000 miles with drums on rear.
Anyone been there and actually replaced a rear wheel stud on a AWD or at least pulled the wheel flange off ???
Can I drill the backing plate to drive in a new stud ?
Thanks !

ps..... disclosing that I broke the stud using a faulty Craftsman click stop torque wrench. Didn't take great effort when it let go and I am not heavy handed with tools. (45 years experience changing wheels )
So I claim faulty heat treatment of the stud !

[fishexpo101]

I'm pretty sure the rear wheel studs can be press out of the rear hub, but I don't think there is enough clearance to just pull a new stud through the hole in the hub flange. You may be SOL, have to pull the hub off to get enough room to press out a stud and pull a new one through.

Bearing, you can check yourself - if there is any wiggling in the wheel, once you lift that corner in the air and pry on the tire from side to side, top to bottom. If it moves (slop) - then you might have a bad bearing as well. But if you just snapped the stud off recently, and just took it to the dealership to assess the repair work - I highly doubt that you'll need a new bearing back there.

But to pull that hub of, that is pretty labor intensive - as the rear suspension has to be disconnected and the axle pushed out. Drilling may not be an option, as you may not be able to angle it far enough away from the hub flange base. Plus on the other side of the drum backing plate - there is the rear axle carrier assembly. All pretty compact and compressed - one of the drawbacks of tighter packaging.

Stud could have sheared off for a number of reasons - not heat treated properly, advance corrosion, bolt stretched from excessive torque, etc. Doesn't take a whole lot of force to shear a stud off, I've done my fair share over the years.

[Kanata_Matrix]

replace stud is not hard I did it myself like 15 minutes. As for bearing unless there is grinding noise or do the test like fishexpo101 said then conclude . See this link for how to change stud by me btw I am in Ottawa as well.
http://matrixowners.com/index.php?showtopic=82570

[bobfur]

Very nicely detailed procedure for FWD versions. thanks
Unfortunately, with AWD models there is no room between hub and backing plate to insert new stud.
After dealer's (Tony Graham Toyota) outrageous $1,000. quote, I took Matrix to another shop. They pulled the hub and replaced stud for $50.

btw had taken Matrix to dealer to have rear differential axle seal replaced. Apparently this is a common problem on AWD Matrix's . I was told that loss of oil can be disastrously expensive as the rear diff incorporates transfer case.
Mine wasn't warranty but did get TG's " 10% "seniors discount" for total of just under $400.

[Kanata_Matrix]

That's good to hear you were able to fix with a lower cost. That's why they call them : STEALERSHIP.