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Old 08-27-2010, 05:15 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Is rotor resurfacing necessary?

Hello - I have a 2003 Toyota Matrix XR with approx. 139,000 miles on it. I don't recall when I last changed my brakes, but I went to Midas and they told me by brake pads still had a good 6K miles on it. However, they've been squeeking very badly. The mechanic at Midas said there could be a lot of explanations....weather, bad rotors, etc.

Fast forward, my local Toyota dealership is running a front brake special so I figured I might as well change the pads. But the service advisor said that since my brakes are squeeking, I should also have the rotors resurfaced. Is that BS? Should I get the rotors resurfaced as well, even though I still have pad life?

On another note, when do I have to change the back brake drums? Thanx!!!
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At this age and mileage I would just replace the rotors.
Shouldn't cost much more than resurfacing.
Also, they will be thinner after resurfacing.
Get an estimate at a good independent shop, not a chain like Midas etc.
There's no need to take an out-of-warranty car to the dealership for routine work like this.
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Resurfacing is a good idea when replacing pads. Most shops only charge about $10.00 per rotor.
If it's time for front brakes, you should at least have the rears checked. They're usually not too far behind the front.
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If your disks are warped (you should feel a very noticeable vibration in the steering while braking), resurfacing can fix the issue.

However, do remember once you resurface a disk, it is going to thin it out so the next time disk gets warped again, you will have to replace the disk (and also the brake pads to go with it since brake pads generally must be replaced with the disks).
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There is a little debate as to whether or not to resurface rotors. Is it absolutely necessary, no. In fact, it removes metal from the rotor which can help propagate the the same problems it was cut for faster. However, can it stop things such as pulsations and some squeaks or noises, yes. Hard to advise you without being able to look at your car.

Did he give you a measurement of the pad remaining? If it is in the 3/32" area your squealers could be letting you know its time to change pads and it might have nothing to do with the rotors. Your squeak may be coming from the rear drums because they need to have the backing plate greased. Easy way to tell that is to pull the ebrake and listen (for rear drum). If you hear your noise doing that, then you know.

All in all, there are no Toyota set intervals for any brake related components. Toyota does, however, have a discard thickness of all rotors. The original thickness of front rotors from factory is 25.00mm The front discard thickness is 23.00mm. If it is beneath that thickness, then Toyota says the rotors must be replaced. Other than that Toyota says to inspect rotor surface issues (i.e. deep scoring, cracks, or pulsations). If the rotor is thick enough and is not damaged Toyota never says to cut them or not to cut them.

As for rear drums, it is the same scenario as before. Only this time you measure inner diameter because as they wear the inner diameter increases. The original factory diameter is 228.6mm. This discard point is 229.6 or over must be replaced. Again it says nothing about cutting.

If they want to cut your rotors, at least make them produce a digital micrometer and show you that they are thick enough to be cut. Rotor cutting is an accepted practice within the automotive industry. They are not trying to rip you off. The are trying to save themselves from any comebacks for noise or pulsation.

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^ Well stated.
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