Matrix XR v.s. XRS?

[allanha]

I know that the XRS has the 182 HP...and quite a lot faster than the XR..

but the torque on the xr is better?

is it true that XR is better when it comes to mod and stuff than the XRS?

tell me about XR, and XRS !

thanks

[DoctorZephyr]

The XRS has 5 more lbs of torque then the XR. Also the XRS has a 6 speed manual compared to the XR's 5 speed. The XRS is on a different level of performance then the XR stock. As for modifications there is a TRD S/C for the 1zz motor which is in the XR, though it has been discontinued since. The 2zz in the XRS can make more power for cheaper though.

[allanha]

Originally Posted by DoctorZephyr

The XRS has 5 more lbs of torque then the XR. Also the XRS has a 6 speed manual compared to the XR's 5 speed. The XRS is on a different level of performance then the XR stock. As for modifications there is a TRD S/C for the 1zz motor which is in the XR, though it has been discontinued since. The 2zz in the XRS can make more power for cheaper though.

Hi, thanks for the info. Greatly apprecicated it.

but can u explain TRD S/C?

what do u mean by cheaper?

overall, when it comes to mods, xrs is better?

[allanha]

Originally Posted by DoctorZephyr

The XRS has 5 more lbs of torque then the XR. Also the XRS has a 6 speed manual compared to the XR's 5 speed. The XRS is on a different level of performance then the XR stock. As for modifications there is a TRD S/C for the 1zz motor which is in the XR, though it has been discontinued since. The 2zz in the XRS can make more power for cheaper though.

oopps, nevermind about the trd s/c, i know what that is now..lol
does trd s/c comes as a stock model?

[DoctorZephyr]

The S/C does not come standard with any model. And if performance is what your looking for then the XRS is much better than the XR. The XR has a bit of a smoother ride due to a softer suspension. But the XRS I feel is a better vehicle all around.

[allanha]

Originally Posted by DoctorZephyr

The S/C does not come standard with any model. And if performance is what your looking for then the XRS is much better than the XR. The XR has a bit of a smoother ride due to a softer suspension. But the XRS I feel is a better vehicle all around.

ahh, i see. Thanks for the info !

[Billiam]

With the exception of the all-wheel drive model, which had an IRS, all gen-1 Matrix had the same suspension...whether base, XR or XRS. There wasn't a "harder" or "softer" suspension. HP ratings for the XRS were 180, 173 and 164 depending on the year. The base/XR was 130 and the AWD was 125.

It's true that the 2zz put out more peak torque, but the 1zz made slightly more torque at lower rpms than the 2zz. Still though, overall the 2zz is a better performer.

The XRS will also give a 6 speed tranny and 4 wheel disc brakes vs. the base/XR.

Kinda miss my old XRS.

[Zembonez]

180 HP in a 3000 pound car isn't exactly going to make John Force jealous, but it's somewhat adequate.

[Billiam]

Originally Posted by Zembonez

180 HP in a 3000 pound car isn't exactly going to make John Force jealous....

No doubt about that. The 2zz was actually pretty gutless on the bottom end. But above 7000 rpm the 2zz is awake. "Lift" is where it made it's power.

[Zembonez]

Originally Posted by Billiam

No doubt about that. The 2zz was actually pretty gutless on the bottom end. But above 7000 rpm the 2zz is awake. "Lift" is where it made it's power.

They may not make much power, but with a manual trans and a good driver, they can be pretty fun to drive.

[Billiam]

Originally Posted by Zembonez

They may not make much power, but with a manual trans and a good driver, they can be pretty fun to drive.

Oh, for sure. I used to love merging on to the highway in 3rd gear and hitting lift about halfway down this one on-ramp on my daily commute.

The 2zz demands that you rev it to make power. But it was designed to live above 7000 rpm!

[allanha]

Does that mean the XRS waste more gas than the XR? like a civic lx(Stock) vs. a vtec?(Stock)
since the XRS is more efficient and powerful than the XR??

[Billiam]

Originally Posted by allanha

Does that mean the XRS waste more gas than the XR? like a civic lx(Stock) vs. a vtec?(Stock)
since the XRS is more efficient and powerful than the XR??

The 1zz engine in the base/XR will get better mileage than the XRS....hands down. Also, the 2zz requires premium fuel...91 octane or higher.

[allanha]

Originally Posted by Billiam

The 1zz engine in the base/XR will get better mileage than the XRS....hands down. Also, the 2zz requires premium fuel...91 octane or higher.

Jesus, gas price is going up too..I think the XR will probably be the best bet.

[silver04rollas]

Matrix was not THAT heavy. I remember the specs at 2850 pounds. It was never over that number. The Corolla XRS weighed 2650 lbs.

Yeah, minimum of Octane 91 is absolutely must for 2ZZ unless you don't rev it over 4000 rpm since the 11.5:1 compression ratio applies to only the high-lift cam.

Originally Posted by Zembonez

180 HP in a 3000 pound car isn't exactly going to make John Force jealous, but it's somewhat adequate.