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Old 04-27-2011, 12:00 AM   #1 (permalink)
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2005 Matrix fuel filler neck problem

I own a 2005 Toyota Matrix. The engine trouble light came on yesterday. I took the car right away to my Toyota dealer. They diagnosed the car, got an error code P0456. They found that there is a small crack in the fuel filler pipe. The error code is the same as in the recall #EG051-06. The labour for diagnosing and fixing 2.30hr=$228.85 Parts$=206.80+ taxes and misc. total=$555.77.

I thought that it was the ECU that was causing same problem again which was a recall and was replaced because the engine light was on and rough shifting.
It took a long time to replace the ECU ever since I got the recall letter last year, and was only replaced when my cars engine trouble light came on and shifting was abrupt.
That happened and was corrected in February this year.



Now the gas filler pipe has a crack. How could that be? The car is only 6 years old and has only 63,905 KM. What’s next? Are Toyota now made to self destruct after five years which is the warranty limit?
Is this a manufacturing defect?

The car has only 63,905KM.
I believe the defect was already there the whole time from delivery but over time made it more pronounced.

I saw on the internet a copy of a Toyota Technical Service BULLETIN
Dated: August 23, 2006 #EG051-06
Title:
M.I.L. ON" DTC P0440, P0441, P0442,
P0446, AND/OR P0456
FUEL FILLER TUBE IMPROVEMENT
Models:
Some 2003 – 2004 Corolla and Matrix 2WD and 2005 model year Matrix 4WD vehicles
may exhibit a M.I.L. “ON” condition with DTCs P0440, P0441, P0442, P0446, and/or
P0456 stored. An improved fuel filler tube has been developed to correct this condition.

Is this the same kind of fuel filler tube that was installed on my Matrix?
I am terribly disappointed. I had a 1993 Toyota Corolla for 11 years and the only trouble I had was the engine timing belt which had to be replaced after 9 years.

I am extremely careful with my cars and I always put the gas station filler nozzle carefully to the gas tank when I fill up.


I wrote to Toyota Canada about this last week, and I am waiting for a reply.

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First I've heard of a filler neck "crack" on the Matrix. I know there might be an issue with a leak in the vent portion of the filler tube, but in the fill tube itself, that is weird.

The ECU issues that some Corolla/Matrix experienced, were just for driveability issues - no start conditions, rough shifting, odd CELs. An EVAP issue is more mechanical in nature - leak, crack, etc.

Let us know what Toyota has to say about this issue.
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First I've heard of a filler neck "crack" on the Matrix. I know there might be an issue with a leak in the vent portion of the filler tube, but in the fill tube itself, that is weird.

The ECU issues that some Corolla/Matrix experienced, were just for driveability issues - no start conditions, rough shifting, odd CELs. An EVAP issue is more mechanical in nature - leak, crack, etc.

Let us know what Toyota has to say about this issue.
No reply yet from Toyota Canada.
I did not add this to my complain as I just let this go.
The standard digital clock sometimes it is on and sometimes is completely off.
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No reply yet from Toyota Canada.
I did not add this to my complain as I just let this go.
The standard digital clock sometimes it is on and sometimes is completely off.
Today May 24,2011.
I got a call from Toyota Canada.
There answer is sorry but the full cost is yours.
Warranty has expired.
They also said the recall bulletin is not a recall but a technical bulletin for dealers to know how to go about dealing with said problems.
My advise to my fellow Toyota owners if you have any concerns about your
Toyota bring it in right away to be corrected, while your warranty is still active.
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