toyota paint - Toyota Nation Forum : Toyota Car and Truck Forums

marioandretti · 06-26-2005, 08:53 AM

hi, can anyone tell me if they've had factory paint replaced and then had problems with the paint peeling? i had a kid hit me this winter in snow and when the paint was redone on my bumper it peeled. so they repainted and after 2 days, it began peeling again. help? any would be appreciated!!

Bazirker · 06-26-2005, 10:03 AM

Sounds like the paint shop sucks.

I have a friend who used model paint from hobby shops to do touch-ups on his silver '95 Integra. He said it was the cheapest way to go, and I saw some of the results and they looked pretty good. His car died shortly after he did the touch-ups, so I don't know if the paint pealed or not. You really had to let the paint sit on there as long as you could without driving or getting it wet, it takes a long time to dry.

***mistamatrix*** · 06-26-2005, 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bazirker

Sounds like the paint shop sucks.

I concur.

xrs22 · 06-27-2005, 07:21 AM

Especially if the temp. is cold it may take a full day for the clear to cure unless you have some sort of heat source to speed up the process. For example i got my body kit painted in the winter time, don't know which month but it was sunny outside but cold nonetheless and i let the parts dry over night in the garage. So then i proceeded to put them on but the damn clear was still tacky and got my thumb prints on there and when it dried it had my damn thumb prints in the clear. It's ok now since i'm repainting half the car a diff. color anyway.

slipknot490 · 06-28-2005, 07:55 PM

We had this problem with our XRS. My wife hit a chair and after we got the car back, we started noticing the clear was coming off here and there. After several trips back to the body shop and answers like " I don't believe we can fix it to your satisfaction" due to the problems continuing, we traded our baby in.

I hated to see it go, but we were afraid of the crappy bodyshop work haunting us for years to come.

greywolf · 06-29-2005, 12:09 AM

Something like a polyurethane paint or a flex additive is required for flexible parts. Most paints dry hard and will readily peel off places like bumpers.

xrs22 · 06-29-2005, 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by greywolf

Something like a polyurethane paint or a flex additive is required for flexible parts. Most paints dry hard and will readily peel off places like bumpers.

that and a good sealer as well. If you don't have a good sealer on there the first time then you paint will go all to shit. I'm gonna use a flex agent on the front part of my kit when i get it painted this weekend.

slipknot490 · 07-01-2005, 04:13 PM

Here's part of the problem. I am currently working at a plant that makes plastic fenders for John Deere tractors(I know it's off topic but there aren't any tractor forums here yet). Anyway, The process is the same on new car parts manufacturing.
We have a mold that is used to "mold" the part (bumper, tractor fender, dash, etc.). The mold is painted with the color you want the part to be. Then it is closed and then injected with the plastic, ABS, polymer, whatever they use. Then the part is removed and the paint is adhered to the plastic. This part needs no buffing, sanding, waxing...nothing. It is ready to be trimmed and installed.
The paint used obviously has a flex agent in it to allow for bending and chemicals to allow it to adhere to the ABS. The paint is also kind of soft as well, which explains why I had so many chips on my XRS(not so much chips but dings or dents from rocks and salt and such). After seeing this process, I know that no body shop will ever, ever be able to reproduce the durability and flexability of the original part. I cannot garantee that this is how the Matrix bumber is done, but a lot of auto makers use this process.
Like I previously posted, due to the shoddy bodyshop my insurance company sent me to, we ended up trading the car in on an xB. I do believe it is for the best, because we would be seeing problems for years to come.