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Old 08-30-2005, 07:34 AM   #1 (permalink)
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owner's manual online as a pdf?

I am looking for the manual (preferably for the 2005 model year) accesible on line. Can you help?
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Old 08-30-2005, 09:07 AM   #2 (permalink)
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It's not the users manual, and it is for a 2003 (2004 is nearly identical, and 2005 is mostly the same), but here is a link for the references manual, including wiring diagrams, repair manual, and lots of the same information that is included in the users manual.
http://sirsudsalot.no-ip.com/matrix/..._Reference.zip
This zip file expands into some directories containing a couple of html files with pointers to a bunch of pdf files. It isn't very user-friendly, but it has gobs of information if you take the time to browse and become familiar with it.
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FYI, I've "stickied" a thread at the top of this Matrix forum that contains other links to the service manual. http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/t52198.html

As for "owner's" manual, I have yet to see that floating around in pdf format.
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Thanks for the replies guys. Wondering if you can look for me (I dont have a Matrix) in your owners manual. In the engine oil section does Toyota mention the possible use of 0W-30 for very low temps?
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I can take a look but I doubt that info is in there. If anything, it probably just promotes the use of 5W30 as the 'all-around' oil.

Consider switching to synthetic oil. I've been using Mobil1 SuperSyn.
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I agree with Mistamatrix, if you want really good low-temp behavior, synthetic is your best bet. It behaves the same when warm, but doesn't get so thick when cold. This is exactly what a 0W30 oil does: It behaves like a 30 weight oil when warm, but behaves like a 0 weight oil when cold. All oils get thicker when cold, and a 0 weight oil (which is very light) is still thicker than a warm 30 weight oil, but not SO much thicker, and this is nothing but GOOD for your engine. So a 0W30 synthetic would be great.
I ran synthetic a couple of winters in my old Saturn. The engine started and sounded "normal" down to, say, 10 F, but below 0 F with 5W30 the engine made funny sounds, like I could hear the valve train clattering for several seconds, and the engine felt like it was really loaded down and working hard to keep going for a first minute. But the two winters I ran synthetic (which was 0W30 I think) it started and sounded "normal" even at -10 F! We even had one morning at -18 F, and it started right up and had a perfectly normal sounding high idle, no valve clatter, no bogging down.
The theory is that thick oil doesn't pump well, so the valve train runs a little bit dry for a few seconds when the oil is thick, and the thick oil around the moving parts puts a heavy drag on them, making the engine have to work hard to keep going. But the synthetic oil flows well even when cold, so a REALLY cold start is just like any other regular cold start. I definitely found that to be true. And since it is a 30 weight oil when warm, it behaves just the same as normal 5w30 the vast majority of the time.
I have a garage now, so on the really cold mornings the car starts out at 40 F, so I haven't bothered with synthetic in my Matrix.
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I agree with Mistamatrix, if you want really good low-temp behavior, synthetic is your best bet. It behaves the same when warm, but doesn't get so thick when cold. This is exactly what a 0W30 oil does: It behaves like a 30 weight oil when warm, but behaves like a 0 weight oil when cold. All oils get thicker when cold, and a 0 weight oil (which is very light) is still thicker than a warm 30 weight oil, but not SO much thicker, and this is nothing but GOOD for your engine. So a 0W30 synthetic would be great.
Thanks for the reply. Some background:

I have used M1 5W-30 in my '05 5 speed Vibe since the 1000 km mark. I even changed it out again at the 3200 km mark, again for more M1 5W-30. It is now at 8700 km and will do another change later this week. This time I plan on keeping this new oil in for 6 months. I was just curious if Toyota actually mentions the use to 0W-30 in the oil section of the Matrix manual. GM says its ok but I figure it would be good to see what the maker of the 1zz fe says.
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