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Old 06-01-2008, 09:46 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Obviously old news but I just found about it and didn't find anything else on here about it so here it is.

http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=467

Very cool idea in my opinion.
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Obviously old news but I just found about it and didn't find anything else on here about it so here it is.

http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=467

Very cool idea in my opinion.
Haven't seen this before but a very interesting idea.
Wondering how much torque is actually produced by the water compared to conventional fuel but either way if harnessed effectively if it can reduce fuel consumption by 40% that's a hell of a good idea.

Also wondering if this could be applied to already existing engines by reprogramming ecu's etc, the only problem for aftermarket would be the existing patent...since that goes out the window in 20 years I believe we might be stuck for a lil bit
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That is a brilliant idea since lots of the energy from combustion is wasted as heat. This is putting that heat into good use.
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It is a brilliant idea, and it sounds good for mileage, though I have my doubts towards this.

Engines are made of metal, there is no guarantee that all the water is exhaust out of the engine. What if there is a more than traceable amount of water in the engine, won't we then have rust?
With current tight tolerances in engines, won't even minimal rust compromise the engine?
Then the second thing is hydrolock. I'm sure most people that has anything to do with performance in their cars will know what that is. Anything goes wrong in that engine, water inside cylinders will result to hydrolock and we have a dead engine. While computer electronics can control it, introducing such a element in an engine doesn't seem like a boost of reliability to me.
Last thing is the rapid heating and cooling of the engine rapidly. I don't think many common elements can withstand that kind of abuse easily without breaking down prematurely.
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It is a brilliant idea, and it sounds good for mileage, though I have my doubts towards this.

Engines are made of metal, there is no guarantee that all the water is exhaust out of the engine. What if there is a more than traceable amount of water in the engine, won't we then have rust?
With current tight tolerances in engines, won't even minimal rust compromise the engine?
Then the second thing is hydrolock. I'm sure most people that has anything to do with performance in their cars will know what that is. Anything goes wrong in that engine, water inside cylinders will result to hydrolock and we have a dead engine. While computer electronics can control it, introducing such a element in an engine doesn't seem like a boost of reliability to me.
Last thing is the rapid heating and cooling of the engine rapidly. I don't think many common elements can withstand that kind of abuse easily without breaking down prematurely.
Modern engines are made of aluminum. Aluminum doesn't rust, at least in the traditional sense. An aluminum oxide coating actually protects the aluminum. It also prevents the aluminum from reacting.

Engines would probably have to be designed from the ground up to use a system like this, but I don't see why it can't be done. I would love to see some prototype cars.

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It is a brilliant idea, and it sounds good for mileage, though I have my doubts towards this.

Engines are made of metal, there is no guarantee that all the water is exhaust out of the engine. What if there is a more than traceable amount of water in the engine, won't we then have rust?
With current tight tolerances in engines, won't even minimal rust compromise the engine?
Then the second thing is hydrolock. I'm sure most people that has anything to do with performance in their cars will know what that is. Anything goes wrong in that engine, water inside cylinders will result to hydrolock and we have a dead engine. While computer electronics can control it, introducing such a element in an engine doesn't seem like a boost of reliability to me.
Last thing is the rapid heating and cooling of the engine rapidly. I don't think many common elements can withstand that kind of abuse easily without breaking down prematurely.
I don't think hydrolock is a concern here. It's not like you're shoving a hose in the intake. The water would be injected the same way fuel is, atomized into a fine mist, not poured in from a bucket.
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If you read all the comments below the article you'll find that most of the issues with it have already been discussed, hell the comments are more interesting than the article itself.
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Wow, I've never heard of that before, that is an amazing idea. Obviously the development of it for practical applications has a long way to go, but I would really like to see this design make it into a few cars someday.
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thats awesome. i bet that motor maks a ton of power.
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What impact does this have on potable water supply? What happens when water demand increases by 25%, 100%, or 200% when people start having to use this stuff in their cars?

Water is abundant and cheap, but in light of recent droughts in the southern US, this really isn't something that can be ignored. You can desalinize sea water, but at what cost? Increased energy consumption? Endangering sea life?
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