Some of the stuff for hypermiling is good, but i just got back from vacation from Santa Cruz to San Diego and i averaged 22.9 miles per gallon with a V6, though i put my stock wheels back on, my truck is still lifted and carrying a bunch of extra weight. I got 21.7 mpg comming back since it's a small incline headed back. That is by far way better then i would ever expect to get if i kept my 285's on. I also have an AFE cai, and was constantly looking at my scanguage. I cruise controlled almost the whole way between 60-70 mph, and i made pretty good time also. 8 1/2 hours worry free of tickets. Speeding is a $300+ risk if i get caught and also tarnished my perfect driving record. My old average mpg was between 16-17. I don't care if i drive like granny now, the benefits outway the cost.
man, i was bummed when i only got low 27's during my vacation. doing 75 for 1,200 miles will do that to you.
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Total Miles43,011 Total Gallons1,836.1 Average MPG23.43 Total Fuel Cost$5,068.52 Avg. Fuel Cost$2.760 Fuel cost per mile$0.118
did i say the V6 was almighty? no. and how does that truck handle 1200 pounds or what ever you haul? bet that little 2.7 I4 moves it beautifully.
point is, if you are worried about mileage as much as you make it sound like you are, what are you doing driving a truck everyday unless you haul everyday. I drive a truck because i tow and haul stuff almost daily. and when im not hauling i still drive it, but i don't worry about my mileage. i bought a truck for that reason, to move stuff, not because of the mileage i may or may not get.
but i don't worry about my mileage. i bought a truck for that reason, to move stuff, not because of the mileage i may or may not get.
I think what is being missed here is I and the other hypermilers I know don't "worry about our mileage" but instead simply enjoy the challenge of getting great mileage, it wouldn't matter if it was a F650 or an Insight I was driving.
What every money I save in gas doesn't mean shit to me monetarily, it's the challenge. I'm not trying to save the planet, but for me hypermiling makes driving fun in a different way.
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Last edited by worthywads; 07-23-2008 at 10:13 PM.
Already had a guy in my area..(( western pa )) have an accident that WAS related to hypermiling. Witnesses said he had to swerve several times and hit his brakes when several deer ran out onto the highway, he ended up rear ending another car, his excuse was his brakes failed. The investigated his vechicle and found it was in perfect condition, he finally admitted to the police he was using hypermiling techniques and had FORGOTTEN he didnt have his engine running in all the commotion of the deer coming onto the highway so quickly and never even tried to restart his vehicle.
I think what is being missed here is I and the other hypermilers I know don't "worry about our mileage" but instead simply enjoy the challenge of getting great mileage, it wouldn't matter if it was a F650 or an Insight I was driving.
What every money I save in gas doesn't mean shit to me monetarily, it's the challenge. I'm not trying to save the planet, but for me hypermiling makes driving fun in a different way.
With all due respect, I dont think guys like you realize the dangers you are posing. You are basically carrying out experiments on the highway while you are supposed to be driving.....Most states DO NOT allow coasting with the engine off for very good reason. Most hypermilers dont drive consistantly, so the cause issues for OTHER drivers without seemingly knowing it. I dont consider hypermiling actually DRIVING, its messing around with a 4000lb car without regard to others. Basically all the engine shuttin off and coasting does is cause OTHERS to have to drive more defensively....Ive been on the highway when people were obviously doing this crap and all it does is slow the average speed of the traffic and have a LOT of people having to pass the car playing around. If EVERYONE used these techniques what would a highway be like??......That is why its foolish to do this stuff...you are NOT driving and its not considered actual mileage, if you are shutting your car off....whats next?? hook a cable to a semi, and let it pull you up hills to get an extra 2.3 mpg?
I know for a fact he was so keep pretending you have a clue. I had to follow that idiot through Dillon, SC so I know exactly what he was doing.
Nice try.
Basically they want to pretend they have a 500 foot bubble around their car and noone should get too close, like they own a small area of the highway and have no regard for other traffic moving at an average speed of 72 or so mph.....Those silly games are okay if you are on deserted highway in texas or out west, but ive come across people doing this silly stuff on crowded highways, they try to pretend not to see the traffic jam they are causing behind them and act like the road is all theirs.
Already had a guy in my area..(( western pa )) have an accident that WAS related to hypermiling. Witnesses said he had to swerve several times and hit his brakes when several deer ran out onto the highway, he ended up rear ending another car, his excuse was his brakes failed. The investigated his vechicle and found it was in perfect condition, he finally admitted to the police he was using hypermiling techniques and had FORGOTTEN he didnt have his engine running in all the commotion of the deer coming onto the highway so quickly and never even tried to restart his vehicle.
Do you possibly have a on-line source for the article describing this. I did a google on "Hypermiling deer" and got nothing. With all the bad press on hypermiling lately I'd assume this would be all over the net. I'll be searching again for this story, if it ever shows up I'll be sure to post it here.
I'm not sure how this would have played any different with the engine running, he still had steering and brakes. Even after 3 good solid brakes with the vacuum assist you still have brakes it just takes a lot more force.
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With all due respect, I dont think guys like you realize the dangers you are posing. You are basically carrying out experiments on the highway while you are supposed to be driving.....Most states DO NOT allow coasting with the engine off for very good reason. Most hypermilers dont drive consistantly, so the cause issues for OTHER drivers without seemingly knowing it. I dont consider hypermiling actually DRIVING, its messing around with a 4000lb car without regard to others. Basically all the engine shuttin off and coasting does is cause OTHERS to have to drive more defensively....Ive been on the highway when people were obviously doing this crap and all it does is slow the average speed of the traffic and have a LOT of people having to pass the car playing around. If EVERYONE used these techniques what would a highway be like??......That is why its foolish to do this stuff...you are NOT driving and its not considered actual mileage, if you are shutting your car off....whats next?? hook a cable to a semi, and let it pull you up hills to get an extra 2.3 mpg?
With all due respect, you are generalizing.
My commute is rural 45 and I travel early with almost no other traffic. I'm very careful to avoid impeding others, and I'm traveling between 40-50. I don't shut off my engine on the interstate with a few acceptions.
The OP says he's driving 60 not 30. Just like everything else there certainly some jerks out there that don't care about how there driving is affecting others, some may be hypermiling. A lot of hypermilers that are driving the speed limit in the right lane get people that like to tailgate them and honk and cut them off. I don't seem to get that in my truck, but in a Prius I'm sure it'd be different.
I've seen cars impeding traffic too, crossing Iowa which is actually very hilly with almost continual small ups and downs the trucks gain momentum speeding up on the downs and slow down on the ups (That's a hypermiling technique called driving with load). Everything came down to 40 mpg or less with maybe 30 trucks all bound up. They lost all their momentum and were really struggling to climb the hills. 30 minutes later when I finally was able to get pass the jerk, it was some bitch driving 45 in new Beetle hunched over the steering wheel with a book in her hands. I wouldn't classify that as hypermiling.
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Last edited by worthywads; 07-26-2008 at 01:33 PM.
Yea, I didn't do the push out of the parking space stuff, but I tried to turn the engine off and barely coast into every red light, only go 60 on the highways, never press the gas down more to maintain speed up hills, etc.
I bet you're a real "hit" in traffic. In Texas you'd be crushed by a Suburban within a week. I can understand using better driving techniques to get better mpg, but coasting without the engine running is asking for disaster.
Some laws are broken with low risk to life and limb. Shutting down your engine means you have at least temporarily given up full control of the vehicle, when speeding your still in control. Big difference.
Doubt it. When speeding you're giving up braking distance for less travel time. For instance going from 60mph to 80mph only reduces trip time by ~15 minutes on the hour but it nearly doubles stopping distance. Otoh, shutting off an engine while the vehicle moving is only a problem if the driver doesn't have the arms to steer the vehicle w/o the PS pump on. Braking is the same unless there is something seriously wrong w/ the system. Should be good for at least one and probably two whatever-0 panic stops before getting hard. Granted, if yer spindly armed and ya can't steer w/o PS, don't shut-off the vehicle, but otherwise it shouldn't be a problem.
Last edited by thaharlequin; 07-27-2008 at 03:22 AM.
Do you possibly have a on-line source for the article describing this. I did a google on "Hypermiling deer" and got nothing. With all the bad press on hypermiling lately I'd assume this would be all over the net. I'll be searching again for this story, if it ever shows up I'll be sure to post it here.
I'm not sure how this would have played any different with the engine running, he still had steering and brakes. Even after 3 good solid brakes with the vacuum assist you still have brakes it just takes a lot more force.
No that was the issue, he swerved but didnt have power steering, and hit the brakes several times I guess...( not all cars have the same amount of reserve for power brakes im assuming or he MAY have used some up....) it was a VERY long downhill ( couple miles ) he admitted to going (( im going from memory here, was a few weeks back I read it)) something like uh 85 coasting in neutral, so honestly he was breaking the speed limit a good bit...(( 55 in that area ))..no I cant find the link..it didnt say deer in the headline if i remember correctly..but something more like......high mileage crash or high speed crash...I figured id be able to find it really easily but cant..let me keep looking.
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