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Old 11-14-2008, 12:24 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Fuel Saving bolt on/plug in's

So does anybody here have bought any bolt-on or plug-in fuel saving devices that actually have documented positive results. Im all for power and performance, but nowadays, Im looking to invest in a more fuel economical device. Im all for hybrids, but nobodys got a hybrid truck or van that puts out the power and mpg I want at an affordable price. Wouldn't it be great if there were a Hybrid conversion kit available for the same price as a turbo or supercharger? Im pretty sure automotive technology is going more towards reducing our dependancy on oil and increasing our use of alternative energy, so Im pretty sure some of us, if not all of us, have looked into it once or twice. I just thought it would be nice to have a collaboration of do's and a lot of do not purchase type of blogs.
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Old 11-14-2008, 01:47 PM   #2 (permalink)
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They're all snake oil in my book. There was also a Mythbusters episode on the same thing, and some other studies as well. In general, they are like diet pills. There is no real regulation, so they can say whatever they want.
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Old 11-16-2008, 04:45 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Try out this product and see how it works. I'm really curious.

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Old 11-17-2008, 05:28 PM   #4 (permalink)
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the bolt on devices are a bunch of crap. here's the way i see it - fuel economy is incredibly important when marketing a vehicle now more than ever. therefore every little extra economy they can squeeze out of their lineup is potentially more sales. so with that in mind if there was a bolt on device out there that really works...why aren't they using it?

oh wait maybe its big oil paying everyone off!! well if you want to believe they'd be bothered paying say GM for lost revenue (more actually, more cars out there mean more advertising) go right ahead. but considering that OPEC can just slow down production to drive up prices when they're not happy sure doesn't make much sense to me. everyone starts using less so they drive up the price. much easier, completely legal and you get more profit without huge payoffs.

anyhow, saving fuel....first is getting the car in good shape. oil changes regularly, spark plugs, ignition wires, dizzy cap (if applicable), oxygen sensor(s), air filter, ignition timing (again if applicable), etc.

now fun stuff. try increasing your tire pressure a little. too much will wear the tires out faster, but a little more gives slightly better FE at the expensive of a slightly rougher ride. if the standard for the car is say 32 psi try 38. just stay within the limits of the sidewall on the tires.

block heaters - even in the summer if you want to go nuts. when the car is cold it wastes more fuel. heat it up faster

weight reduction - when was the last time you use the spare tire? maybe take a can of the sealant stuff and leave your spare at home for in town commuting. remove your a/c if its not working anymore on older cars *make sure to get it evacuated properly, don't vent that crap into the air please!* anything else you can lose?

if you have a belt driven rad fan maybe think of getting an electric and wiring up and thermostat/cutoff switch. just get a fan from the junkyard

going further...i cant confirm but have a suspicion that a lightweight flywheel on manuals would help if driven conservatively.

on rear wheel drive vehicles what about an aluminum driveshaft? theres a lot of shops that would weld one up and fit it for you.

generally think of not increasing horespower but rather 'freeing it up'. unfortunately most performance parts are aimed at burning more fuel - and rightfully so.
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Old 11-18-2008, 04:19 PM   #5 (permalink)
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A block heater would be one of those rare plug-in devices that could reduce fuel consumption a bit. For rwd vehicles, and maybe fwd vehicles w/ an intermediate shaft and enough room, a DIY hybrid setup that can make ~40+hp is only ~two to three grand, and should pay itself off if the owner is smart about how they use it, unlike a turbocharger. Best of both worlds really...

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Old 07-13-2010, 11:59 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I am still working on finding it but I would really like to find something that is similar to what I had on a 1991 Escort back in the day. Unfortunately I can not find it on the internet at the moment but I am continually searching. It also came preinstalled by the previous owner so I dont even know what it was called or how it was installed to try to make something up on my own.

It consisted of a air/fuel meter and a dial. Once you were on the freeway you could dial back your air/fuel ratio to maximize the mileage. Now the 1.9 in the fords were known to be pretty rich so there was a lot of improvement to be had. I have little experience with the toyota motors and specifically the 4AFE that is in my 91 Corolla. However I have to believe there is some improvement to be had by something of this nature.

The trick with this little thing was that you had to remember to bring the dial back down so the ecu would operate as normal while driving around town or it could end up in a lean condition. Once in the habit... it was quite easy to remember. I forgot a few times for small periods of time and put a ton of miles on that car with no issues... so it couldn't have been to bad.

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Here is a link to the controller I was talking about. I got a best of 46 mpg out of the escort that had one of these things installed. I dont remember it looking identical to this though - so I'm not sure if the appearance has changed over the years or what. But its the same idea. Wonder if this unit would be able to be wired into a toyota?

http://www.escortfocus.com/html/esco...ectronics.html

Any thoughts?

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Old 07-15-2010, 01:02 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Ecomodder has a great list of proven modifications that work:

66 vehicle mods for better fuel economy
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Old 07-15-2010, 01:48 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Yeah I found that. I want to install one of those little MPG trackers and install a engine cut off relay like detailed towards the bottom of that list. Really liked that idea.

Still would like to try to find a way to tune this motor in for a little better MPG just being able to have it run as close to stoich as possible. Plus I'm sure there would be a smidge more power because of it. More worried about economy for this car though.
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Old 07-27-2010, 11:38 PM   #10 (permalink)
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What I have done:

Alternator cutoff switch, one position wired to engage when I brake bwahaha
Fuel cutoff switch for engine kill
Deep cycle battery to go with #1
Lighter alloys (can go lighter by going back to 14, I'm on 15)
OBD2 trip computer (not scangauge but still...)
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Old 07-27-2010, 11:43 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Alternator cutoff switch, one position wired to engage when I brake bwahaha
Does it physically disconnect the alternator?
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Old 07-28-2010, 12:37 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Does it physically disconnect the alternator?
Like a clutch? Id imagine an alternator with no load would spin freely. Unless it powers its own magnets.

Unless its really long nighttime trips, a nice deep cycle battery plugged in every night would allow a little car to start so many times over. Even a 100 watt solar panel on the top of the car would provide enough juice to start the car over an hours charge on a battery.
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