i dont know why you guys especially those driving Honda always think Echo is a slow car. I myself drives Honda too, I drove 2 Accords, 1.6EL and now drivng Civic Sir (EK4).
Honestly 1.5 echo isn't a slow car at all, if you are driving non-vtec Civic, Echo will give you a hard time, and if you are driving one of those SOHC VTEC civic, it will be a close race, and i am saying stock vs stock. And remember Echo is 1.5L and your civic is 1.6L
And speaking about Turbo. If you are driving a Sir or GSR really lucky to meet an Echo with HKS turbo or Blitz supercharge. It's a close race and hard race. I am now in HK, those 1.3 Echo with Turbo can get to 150hp easily, do the math yourself 1.5 Turbo, 170-200 is very easy.
Back to stock vs stock, in HK 1.3 MT echo can beat a stock 1.5 MT Civic VTi.
I am not bias, I am not a Toyota fan at all, but just want to be fair. Since you have to compare apple with apple, not apple with orange.
1.5L car with that kind of performance is pretty good already.
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