so ive been thinking about roll bars for my car. not for track use or anything just for added safety for the daily drive. what kind of option are there? ive seen alot of stuff but no clue as to what fits best in the supra.
i dont need/use my back seat so i dont mind the X back there. i wouldnt mind climbing over door bars either. so im looking for something with a decent amount of protection any suggestions? are the bolt in styles the way to go, or do you really need them welded in place?
well after seeing a few roll over accidents first hand on the way to/from work i see a pretty good reason to have it.
ive seen a brand new nissan titan roll over the roof was completly collapsed in. another time i saw some type of lexus rolled over again it was totally collapsed. both im sure had much better crash(roll over) ratings than my 87 supra.
i dont see why taking something proven with track safety and putting it on the street is a bad thing ha.
MKIVs do pretty well in rollovers, even the targa top ones. There's reinforcement bars all over the roof. I've heard of more people walking out of wrecks than dying. Better check around, but they might've done the same to MK3s.
Think about this, when you're flopping around during a rollover, would you like banging your head on 2" of solid metal tubing inches from the top and side of your head? Banging your ribcage against the side? Not me, but that's what would happen. Race cars have rollcages, but they also have 5 point harnesses to keep the driving from flopping around, and they also wear helmets which protects their heads from hitting the rollbar.
The 3 always go together: rollcage, helmet, harness. Take the rollcage out, and the harness will stop your head/chest from moving down/forward during a cavein, enabling the roof of the car to possibly crush your head. Take the harness out, and you will flop around and hit the rollcage that's supposed to protect you during a rollover. Take the helmet out and your head will hit that part of the rollcage on the B-pillar, your left ear side.
MKIVs do pretty well in rollovers, even the targa top ones. There's reinforcement bars all over the roof. I've heard of more people walking out of wrecks than dying. Better check around, but they might've done the same to MK3s.
Think about this, when you're flopping around during a rollover, would you like banging your head on 2" of solid metal tubing inches from the top and side of your head? Banging your ribcage against the side? Not me, but that's what would happen. Race cars have rollcages, but they also have 5 point harnesses to keep the driving from flopping around, and they also wear helmets which protects their heads from hitting the rollbar.
The 3 always go together: rollcage, helmet, harness. Take the rollcage out, and the harness will stop your head/chest from moving down/forward during a cavein, enabling the roof of the car to possibly crush your head. Take the harness out, and you will flop around and hit the rollcage that's supposed to protect you during a rollover. Take the helmet out and your head will hit that part of the rollcage on the B-pillar, your left ear side.
the harness was going to go with the bars for sure. not just for keeping from hitting the bars but because the single over the shoulder belts cause alot of problems. i broke my left shoulder and its all messed up i was told by my doctors to use a harness if possible. an over the shoulder belt will just mess up my shoulder even more if i ever do get in a car accident. they said it will prevent alot of seat belt injury and is likely more comfortable...
as for the helmet ya i can see it as a problem, but i thought thats why they had bar pads. with enough of a harness to keep you in place and bar pads i dont think hitting the bars would be That bad.
oh TcmaBoy, you dont have to drive like an idiot to be in a roll over accident ya know. friend of mine rolled his firebird in an accident. he was doing 45mph and a car cut him off. friend hit his brakes and the car clipped his front end and that some how flipped him.
A cage and harness won't make you any safer. The energy just goes to the next weakest point. In this case your neck. You would need a full cage with the seats and harness integrated into the cage, a full face helmet, and a Hans device. Your car is designed with crash safty in mind. The car crumples to absorb the energy of impact. A cage eliminats that. Your shoulder belt is designed to restrain you without breaking your neck. A full harness will lock in your body. Your head and neck will take the full force of the impact. Your brain will bounce off of the front of your skull. Not to mention the cage bars that your head will bounce off of. A full cage is not intended for cars that will not see competition duties. So, like I said you do not need a cage in a car you will not compete in.
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