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Old 11-02-2006, 02:01 AM   #1 (permalink)
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engine/tranny question

Hi guys, I have a few questions that I hope you can help me with. Not sure what section to post in, so figured I'd start here:

I am planning on building a kit car soon, and would like to use Toyota power. The car only weighs 1300 lbs., so a stock motor will work fine. I'm looking for an engine that is NA, up to 2.0 liters and has 150-220 hp. My problem is the car is RWD and I have no idea what transmissions will work with certain engines. I'm leaning towards the 3sge, but don't know what tranny I can use with it. Are there other engines you guys suggest? Is there a list of engine/tranny combos that are a simple bolt-on?

Hope you can help. Thanks.

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what kinda car is it.as in what year supra.. use a 7MGE or a 7MGTE motor
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Old 11-02-2006, 11:13 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I'm not sure why you'd recommend a 7M. They're heavy, prone to issues. About the only thing that fits the bill here is the power level and RWD.

A 3SGTE would work well, the 4cyl would be lighter, they are well known, only things I don't know about them is the trasmission setup. They made 180-250hp/tq depending on compression and such. Sorry I can't be more help, 3S's are Celica engines, don't know much about 'em.
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Hard to say, most of the Toyota 4 cyl are in front drive cars, or in the case of the MR2 mid ship. The 22RE, or a 22RET out of the older Toy trucks can be built to make some power. For a newer motor there is the 2RZ or 3RZ out of the Tacoma. I suppose there is the old 4AG. For your purposes I would think a SR20DE or SR20DET might be the better option. It is small, light, easy to find parts for, and came in a rear drive set up.
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Old 11-02-2006, 12:33 PM   #5 (permalink)
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None of the supra engines were 2.0L in north america. There was the 1G-GTE twin turbo powerplant that would fit your needs, but again, you mentioned you wanted an NA. Besides, the engines are not as rare as any support for them as there are next to no parts available here.

A race built 4ag might also suit what you are looking for quite well, and could use the RWD drivetrain from the AE86 corolla. Again, smaller, lighter 4 cylinder powerplant, long racing heritage, very common and easy to work with, lots of aftermarket support. With high compression and cams it would get you into the power range. Still an iron block though, so it won't be a featherweight, but given the supra engines are all in the 350-450 lb range depending on which one you used, it would be a drop of close to 25% of the weight. Stock I don't think they had the power you were looking for, but I might be wrong on that.

3sgte is swapped commonly into AE86's, so I'm almost positive the tranny from the AE86 works, or that there are adapter plates available. I don't know a lot about them however...they were used in the 4th gen supra by several race teams that needed to lighten the front end up in Japan, but the means of fitting one to the supra drivetrain I have no idea about. Heck, they might use the AE86 transmission for all I know.

If the 6 cylinder is preferred, among the supra engines, a 2.8L 5M, 3L 6M or 2JZ-GE would be the best bet and get you to the middle or upper end of your power goals with minimal work, and good reliability. Some aftermarket is available for them, in that headers and such can be sourced. I don't know if there is anyone with cams available for the older M series, but pistons are if you wanted to bump the compression up some. The 2j has excellent aftermarket support.

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