okay...i know this is kind of a weird subject...but i would like some info...and please no knockin me on my idea please and thanx....okay...a 2jz supra is my dream car...but i'll never have the money to buy one...and i have a nice 71' chevy truck that my grandfather gave me when i was 16...and would never get rid of...i have already done the body work and and i have a big block i was building for it and was planing on twin turboing it...but the truck is gonna be cruised alot to...so..i figure...why not just put my dream car..and the truck i've come to love so much into one thing..so i did some research and found some 2jzgtte's cheaper than what i already have in machine work alone..how possible and how complicated would this task be befor i go out and buy the engine...wiring..mounting location's...ect..any one who is very familiar with the 2jz's ..any advice is apprciated...thanks..jw
really shouldn't be any different than putting any other fuel injected engine in the chassis, except that you are into engine mounts. You could use the getrag 6 speed, or with a 1j bell housing the more common r154 5 speed. Also available would be the automatic trannys from the 3rd gen or 4th gen supra. The big costs are the engine, the transmission and the engine management computer.
That said, if you're not planning to mod the 2j, which would add a lot to the cost, you could easily do a high power small block in the same price range. Not quite a big block, but a mild cam 350-427 engine should see you through to mid 400 hp, which is where the 2j mildly modded will get you, and probably cost you quite a bit less in fab and computer work.
just some opening thoughts...I may think of more by tomorrow.
true...but i also am a welder for a living..so fabrication is no big thing...i want the 6spd tho..and i've built to many small blocks to count...377 strokers...383's...355..ect..i just like being different...i would just like to know how different the mouting brackets from the 7mgte and the 2jz would be mainly..
The engine mounts are essentially the same. The 2j does technically bolt into the late (mid year89-92) 3rd generation supra subframe, although the stock twin turbos need more firewall clearance than the 7M-GTE required. A single turbo setup eliminates this problem. I believe the shifter on the 6 speed sits about 2 inches further back than it does on the 5 speed, but shouldn't pose any real problem. I'm unfamilliar with the 6 speed's transmission mounts, but suspect they will prove similar to the R154 given they have been fitted to 3rd gen cars without too much trouble.
You might also look to get a rear end gear that matches the 6 speed supra ratio to keep the driving characteristics similar.
I would not put the 2JZ, or any other smaller turbo motor in that truck. The chassis is just too heavy. You need the TQ of a small block or big block to get that thing moving. That truck is probably about 1500-2000 lbs heavier than the MK IV. Get a wrecked late model Z28 and swap over the LS1. You would also get some nice disc brakes, seats, and other things you can use in the project. You could also just drop in a standard small block with an Edelbrock, Holly, Painless, etc. fuel injection system.
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thanks for the input bob...now i can go get one of my cousins 7mgte's and to do the motor placement mockup and worry about the tranny mount and placement when i get the 2jz..and i'll plan on getting the proper gear ratio to match the original supra drive train...any thing else you could help me on would be much appreciated..
thanks jw
i know it would be easier to just put a small block in my truck...but everyone and there dog has placed a ls1 or an ls2 in an old camero..or c 10 chevy truck...i plan on modding the 2jz to upwards of 1,000hp when money allows....witch won't be to hard...i like the thought of the look on the faces of people i would beat and then when they see what the motor is...that's the wow factor i'm lookin for with this project..
i know it would be easier to just put a small block in my truck...but everyone and there dog has placed a ls1 or an ls2 in an old camero..or c 10 chevy truck...i plan on modding the 2jz to upwards of 1,000hp when money allows....witch won't be to hard...i like the thought of the look on the faces of people i would beat and then when they see what the motor is...that's the wow factor i'm lookin for with this project..
thanks jw
I guess there is something to the looks, but it is going to have a hard time getting itself moving. You are dumping nearly half of your displacement. You may as well build up an old slant 6 and save yourself some fab work.
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I would have to disagree with the displacement idea. I know the saying about "no replacement for displacement", but in today's compter era, the replacement for cubes is technology.
Don't even bother with a small block. If you want a supra I6, go for it. Compare the hp/tq figures, and they probably aren't too far off. The 6 weighs less than the BB, and if the power output was the same, you're already ahead because it weighs less. As far as room under the hood, I can't think of a truck with much more room than your style of truck.
the stock output on a 2jz is suppose to be around 265...but being turbo'ed you get alot more tq...and with the 6spd ...i'll have the gear ratio for take of purposes till the turbo has a chance to spool...plus...we have a lovely thing called a studder box...i have build 280z's and 2nd gen rx7's with small blocks...i figure it's time to turn the tables...plus the i6 has the tq that i am lookin for...
thanx jw
Wow, I'd love to see this done. I meet so,eone at a Toyota meet a year or 2 back that poped a Small Block into thier old Toyota Pickup. It was something different, and nice for a change.
My friend has a 1JZ (2.5L) putting out around 600hp I think, and it did not cost that much. I'd say as long as you can do most of it yourself, go for it,
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I would not put the 2JZ, or any other smaller turbo motor in that truck. The chassis is just too heavy. You need the TQ of a small block or big block to get that thing moving. That truck is probably about 1500-2000 lbs heavier than the MK IV. Get a wrecked late model Z28 and swap over the LS1. You would also get some nice disc brakes, seats, and other things you can use in the project. You could also just drop in a standard small block with an Edelbrock, Holly, Painless, etc. fuel injection system.
i'm going to have to disagree with you. a '71 chevy pickup weighs about 4000lbs or thereabout. a small block 350 pushes around 290-300hp, and i'm not sure about the torque. even so, you're lucky you net all that power with a carb on there. if i were to do a SBC swap into any vehicle, i'd find the TPI manifold, and go with fuel injection. put it this way. my friend has a 350 crate motor in his 85 camaro. he put the whole TPI setup on there, and it's quick. i still own him in my mk3 supra with a mildly modded 7mgte. (289rwhp/ 295 ft lbs torque). both cars are 5 speeds, and he's a decent driver. i'm making a little less than what a stock 2jzgte would put to the wheels, and i'm owning him without really trying...
a bone stock MKIV supra weighs in at about 3600lbs, and the 2jzgte pushes around 320bhp/300ft lbs torque in STOCK form. with a 3" mandrel bent exhaust, free flowing intake, and a boost controller, it's capable of making 400rwhp EASILY, even on the stock fuel system. the 2jz is an incredibly capable motor, and i'd rather have that in a truck than a small block anything. (in relatively stock form anyway)
you'd get instant torque out of a small block v8, but you get power right up to 6500rpm easily with the 2jz, and if you keep the TT setup, then you start spooling as low as 1800rpm, and with a heavier vehicle, it would actually spool sooner then that. i vote 2jz for the power, surprise factor, and unique factor.
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I meet so,eone at a Toyota meet a year or 2 back that poped a Small Block into thier old Toyota Pickup. It was something different, and nice for a change. 
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