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Old 04-14-2008, 04:03 PM   #1 (permalink)
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3rd Generation OEM vs Brembo?

I found a site called Toyota Parts Wholesale and was browsing through stuff for my Supra. I found some Brembo vented rotors and was wondering... whats the difference with these vs normal oem ones? They're only 50 bucks each and then I'd get to brag that I have Brembos (lol).

This also got me thinking. I couldn't find a thread on this but how hard is it to upgrade to MK4 twin turbo brakes? I can't imagine that being too hard...

Does anyone know much about this? (i'm sure you guys do lol)
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Old 04-14-2008, 04:11 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Im actually about to order the same brakes for my car. 51$ for rear and 53$ for front. They are just vented , no drilled holes or slits. If you wanna wait a week or so i can tell you how they preform.
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sounds good
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What kind of pads are you going to use? Im getting EBC Redstuff. Ill let ya know how the pair work out together.
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I was thinking of the redstuff too. A lot better than just normal pads lol
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Yeah, i ordered Redstuff around and Brembo OEM Vented's today. Should get here in within a week or so. Once i get em on ill let you know how they feel but EBC Redstuff pads recommend 1,000 miles of SOFT Braking before any heavy braking so they can take shape of the rotor due to the fact they are so compressed.
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yup i've heard that before because my friend put them on his 240sx. Sucks, but its worth it.
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It depends if you are ordering the calipers as well. If you are, you will notice a significant increase is stopping power. Vented, sliced, and drilled is pointless if you arnt racing, it just looks cool, well technically the cuts are for rain water but its negligible at highway speeds. They eat through pads faster too for obvious reasons. TT rotors again, are nice and not terribly expensive but without larger calipers, you wont see a difference.

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Where to begin with so much misinformation...

Calipers: if yours are working right, you will see no difference in putting new ones on. Period.

"Vented, sliced, and drilled is pointless..."

First, vented rotors are the type where if you stand them on end, you see the airgaps between the two friction surfaces that helps removes heat. Vented rotors were a quantum leap forward from solids back in the day because they could disappate heat so much better.

I've also never heard of a sliced rotor...I take it you mean slotted. Slots remove water, but more importantly, they scrub pads as you mentioned. This allows you to run hybrid compounds and high temp compounds on the street and not lose the ability to stop when cold. Most porterfield and KVR owners can attest that the first stop of the day on a cold morning is a little dicey...slots cause excess friction and heat. Not good for stock compounds, yes they wear faster, but they are fine for higher performance ones.

Drilled are there to reduce mass on large brake kits that have more than enough mass to accept the thermal loads they will be subjected to and hence on the streets and low braking race tracks, they can afford to sacrifice some mass...something the supra does not the ability to do given the tiny brakes we have. In the bad old days, they were also a benefit to vent gasses caused when organic compounds in pads boiled, as well as remove water. Water is a minimal concern as temperature alone will boil most of it, and centrifugal force tends to help, and gassing does not happen any more. Porsche is a fine example...road cars have drilled rotors, track cars have them on speedway type events. track cars on technical courses run solids. You get to make the same brakes, and just change the rotor depending on the purpose.

MKIV twin turbo rotors will not fit under the calipers of a stock MKIII period. If you get them on, you will indeed see a difference...the difference being that you will have no front brakes because you had to remove the calipers.
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MKIV twin turbo rotors will not fit under the calipers of a stock MKIII period. If you get them on, you will indeed see a difference...the difference being that you will have no front brakes because you had to remove the calipers.
HAHAHAHAH. That was a good laugh lol.

So... do the MK4 TT calipers and rotors install onto the MK3? Or would I need MK4 spindles and/or entire front suspension? Would it be a desireable upgrade for a MK3? I know a lot of Tercel owners upgrade to Paseo front brakes because they are a little bit bigger.

Do you know of any MK3/MK4 comparison pics or write ups and what it entails to swap? What about MK4 rears? Worth the upgrade?
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Rears are close to fitting with "minor" work. I use quotes as anything mucked around with to work when it comes to brakes is something I would personally not do. The front rotors fit with a nightpager kit, but that requires the kit, and rotors, and 300z calipers. By the time you spend all that, you might just get a big brake kit as they will blow the nightpager out of the water performance wise.
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BBK's (whether homebrew or professional) for our cars are amazingly painful in price.
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Well i got SOME of my Rotors and Brakes. I got my Rear Redstuff brakes, and apparently somewhere on the way the front's got lost or some shit. I got my rotors though, i can take some pictures of them if you wanna see them. Ill set the redstuff of them too. If your still waiting to hear from me before you buy brakes your gonna have to wait a little longer, since i gotta re-fucking order the god damn front brakes.
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Old 04-21-2008, 07:55 PM   #14 (permalink)
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sweet pics would be cool. that sucks about the pads though.

Yeah I figured before I asked about a BBK that i'd be hella expensive...
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Yeah ill get some pictures for you here shortly. Ill get a picture of all 4 rotors cause a few of them have marks on them, nothing engraved, youll see. Ill also take some pics of the boost gauge and turbo timer i got for it im about to install. Can somebody please tell me what harness i need for this turbo timer? I got the gauge and timer for 50$ so im not complaining.
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