EVERYONE is going to think I'm ABSOLUTELY CRAZY...but....

[bryan67gto]

Alright guys, here's the deal. I'm new. I have this crazy idea in my head...and it's going to happen come hell or high water. I know it's never done before, but I want to do it.

Rembmer in Tokyo Drift where they put the nissan engine in the mustang? Yeah, that was the coolest idea ever in my opinion .

Now, here's the deal

1.) I own a stripped out 1967 Pontiac GTO with no drivetrain that's been sitting in my garage partially restored with all the bodywork done for the last 4 years. I bought it as a rust-bucket that needed everything...and it came with no motor/trans. I absolutely am in love with the car (it was a birthday present from my dad in high school) but i absolutely HAVE v8's...I want nothing to do with them.

2.) I love supras but will never have the money to own one.

3.) I love the 1j-2jz engines and the power/performance they provide.

4.) I want to join the 2 in unholy matrimony

The suspension is already done, with a "G-machine/pro-touring" kit installed. It's got a 4 wheel disc brake kit...a rebuilt 10 bolt rear end with posi gears and all the works...powdercoated gloss black frame, boxed control arms and polyurethane suspension everywhere. I even have 17" cragar wheels sitting on low profile rubber just sitting on the car right now.

The engine bay has LOTS of room to put it in. I'd know I'd need custom mounts and stuff...but I mean...MAN...where to begin???? And please don't bash...I know I've fallen off the beaten path from the musclecar crowd...but I'm 21 and I dislike the old farts that are associated with these cars (no offense). I want a project that'd different, I've already got the car and it's just begging to do this. I've got the cash...just tell me where to start, who to talk to and how to begin.

my e-mail is bryanjensen0@gmail.com if anyone wants to contribute or tell me who to talk to or where to go. I can send you pictures of my car if you want too.

[TcmaBoy]

Heavy car + small motor = bad idea.

You will want the low end grunt that a V8 can provide to get the car rolling.

[bgrieger]

Here I thought this was going to be about borrowing the V8 for a supra...I was just going to say it's been done.

Want to be radical on a Goat and get all the torque that gas hog could generate...go electric. Big heavy frame that can seat a crap pile of batteries and a large (by comparison) electric motor. Hell, you could get the ideal handling weight distribution by moving cells around and experience torque like there was no tomorrow...but that's just my version of unholy for a restomod (I've been looking at far too many tesla and electric car articles of late...I'll slap myself later).

[pgiller]

I would put a 1jz or 2jz in a 240sx before i would in a old muscle car. light+extreme power= lift off. ha ha ha

[Jeeves]

Originally Posted by TcmaBoy

Heavy car + small motor = bad idea.

You will want the low end grunt that a V8 can provide to get the car rolling.

Exactly.
You want the low end torque that a ballsy V8 gives, and if you look at the dyno graph for any I6 or any of the 1J/2J/7M/etc. they don't have it. They use forced induction to make up for it at the top end but the small displacement is murder on the low end.

Truthfully you can't fight displacement for that kind of thing. You can aid it, but if you're expectant of actually competing with actual GTO performance with an import/GTO combo best of luck to you, they'll likely stomp you out of the hole and you'll spend the rest of the time chasing them.

And please don't bash...

You're on the internet. Wrong place to ask for this.

[willtotheumm]

Good idea. But... bad idea. Like mentioned, the goat is so heavy, the 2jz just wouldnt be able to get up and go like the V8 meant to be in the GTO.

As far as the Mustang with the RB26DETT in it... it's Hollywood. Nothing but pure in simple Hollywood.

Props for the idea. But you might want to look into something else. Maybe if you want to put a Toyota engine in it, drop in the 5.7L 3UR-FE out of the new Tundra with a Supercharger. At 381hp @ 5,600 rpm and 401 ft lb @ 3,600 rpm, before the forced induction, it'd sure get up and go.

[mk2-1jz]

dude how much is that car worth the way it is? a 67 GTO, I'm betting a lot, sell the rolling chassis and buy a supra, problem solved....?

[tevolo]

Here's a couple of vids of a 69 Camaro with a 2jz swap. just thought I'd toss that in here lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZqtJTlXON8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JkXFf8aFMQ

I suppose the 2jz is an awesome platform to try a swap like this with. I'd say go for it man. Even if you don't win a crapload of races, hopefully you'll learn from the swap experience and maybe you'll even change your mind about V8's. Personally in a car like that I'd wanna go with a Toyota V8, maybe a 1uz-fe out of a sc400, but that's just me. 2jz's are awesome but if they're saying you need a V8 that bad for low end then why not go with Toyota right?

[O.O]

People are forgetting that technology is on the side of the 2jz, sure it may not have the same power from the 6.6L V8 stock but it wouldn't take much for the 2jz to reach it and even surpass it. I've seen 800+whp Supras. Three different engine choices went into the GTO, including the economic one.

Dude loves his chassis and has sentimental value, so I say go for it.

Get the long block, uncut wiring harness, and some repair manual. Take measurements and make the custom mounts then worry about wiring later.

[mousehousemoparman]

I hate to be the one to disagree with all the other posts especially because I'm the new guy, but here goes. First off I probally qualify as one of the old farts, but because I do I remember a few things about the 67 GTO. First off the GTO is nothing more than an over glorified Tempest or Lemans from 1967 and Pontiac made tons of them. The base engine for the Tempest was the overhead cam inline six. That body and engine combo was no drag car but was an adequete grocery getter that delivered fair fuel economy. I hate to see a true muscle car get mutilated like you are talking but it sounds like you resurrrected someones parts car so I guess that is admirable. I say try the Supra Goat combo. I don't think you can do any worse than a stock Tempest with the OHC 6. I think the Supra Engine has more power available than the Pontiac 6 and certainly more upgrades available so I don't think you can loose. I just caution one thing, Don't expect to be able to sell the thing and get anywhere the money invested or the value of a real 67 GTO.

[pracefan]

If you have a real GTO, not a clone, sell it and buy an MKIII. You should have lots of cash left to invest in the MKIII. Plus, not a lot of inside the quarter panel rust, floor board rust, trunk rust, rear window trim rust and the general rust that you got with your rust bucket. Remember, as Neil Young said, "rust never sleeps"! I gave up on muscle cars and now have 3 Supra projects going because muscle cars are total crap! The best I could do on a 70 Chevelle was 5,500.00 with all the rust replaced but no drivetrain, no electronics, no interior, nothing but a shell, and it was a Malibu, not an SS. Sorry, didn't mean to get on my muscle car soap box, but you got me started. Don't disrespect a good Toyota motor by putting it in a Pontiac!

[IronNam]

or dont disrespect a toyota chassis with a Chevy motor tehehehe

[pracefan]

DV

Correct. But,,,I have 2 other MKIIs, I have thought about that Chevy smallblock in the black one,,,,,,,,AND THEN I WOKE UP! Too many jalapenos the night before I quess

[pracefan]

Brian,

I would probably get a bigblock for the GTO with a 4 speed, just get it in there and then sell it. There is a huge market for what you got, as you probably know already. If you love Supras, you won't mind the GTO going away near as much as us old farts. I still dream about my 66 Chevelle SS that I let go 23 years ago. But man, the Supras are so nice and so well engineered. You can get a super nice MKIII for what you sell the GTO for. If you want a MKIV, different story. I just bought my first 2 MKIIIs (have had a MKII for 20 years) and I can't believe how inexpensive they are and what is available to build them. Lets say you invest 10K in an MKIII and compare that to a 10K investment in the GTO, you will have a very special piece that you can work on the rest of your life or however long you want to keep it. Versus the GTO and 10K, you still need to invest many Ks to get something that reliability wise, will never and I mean NEVER, come close to the Toyota. For a young guy, you will probably see it my way, for us old farts, it would be real difficult to convince us. The old fart that got you the car, that could be the hard part. It probably means a lot to him, but just look at the technology.