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Old 11-16-2008, 04:26 AM   #1 (permalink)
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JZA80 non turbo standard can it be turbo'd safetly?

Hi there from Dunedin New Zealand .

I'm looking at purchasing my first supra. I've always wanted on buy one but in NZ they are still expensive to buy the TT version but anyways i want a single turbo one.

So im looking at a JZA80 supra now my question how will a JZA80 non turbo hold out in terms of turbo power do i need to forge the internals etc? Cus if i buy one i want to turbo it asap. Id be looking at roughly a 600 hp turbo. I've talked to a few people and they seem to think that roughly 12 psi but that could be wrong.

Eventually i want to totally forge the engine and bore it out to 3.3L. Ill be looking at getting a big single turbo and aiming around the 400KW region but first of all i want a turbo one.

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Old 11-16-2008, 10:52 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Well, the only way to get a JZA80 with a single turbo is to change out the twins. As I recall, there were no factory singles in the era we had imported here.

The 2JZ-GE has been turboed, and there are many kits out there for them, but as to the top power safely you could achieve on stock internals I couldn't say...never researched it.

PSI is not a measure you can use to estimate power. Every turbocharger will provide a different airflow when strapped to a specific engine, and then only with 2 identical turbochargers can one safely say that it will produce an estimated amount of power with a specific pressure. Different engines or different turbos result in different airflow at different pressure levels and so you get different amounts of power.

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Thanks for that.

Im only looking a small power extraction from a turbo kit. On stock internals what power figures do you think are able.

Obviosuly i know when i want to make huge numbers i will be forging all the internals.
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stock internals should get up to 500hp okay, as for compression may be pretty high. ive heard of 700hp

I recommend getting GTE internals as a swap, good budget will provide a strong crank int eh far run, plus the pistons.

as for turboing the GE, youll need ECU, oil squirters and the other swap stuff. simple i guess

im going to get a VVTi GE motor but idk how hard itll be to turbo a VVT-i motor. im gunna keep it around 300-400hp with good response =]
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Another problem you will want to pay attention to is the transmission. The W58 is good for stock power of the GE, any extra power and it likes to chunk gears. The automatic transmissions are good and will hold power, and the Getrag V160's are great and awesome but often cost $2000USD++.

The biggest issue with the GE head is that the head flange is different, so there really aren't very many decent exhaust manifolds that bolt up, and even less intake manifolds. However, with enginuity it shouldn't be a problem.

@DubVipers, if you search for VVTi, you'll not that if you can avoid VVTi, it's probably for the best. It just adds complexity where it's really unneeded.
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engine control is just where it lands on. probably HKS or Apexi system, or some other standalone (SDS or MS) that'll control the VVTI

non VVTi can always be an option for me
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Well that's the thing, standalones aren't exactly cheap
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You don't need new internals, oil squirter's, blah, blah, blah. You can safely run the 2JZ with a small low boost turbo kit and use a piggy back to do the fuel enrichment.

The thing of it is though, for the cost of a turbo kit you can buy a used GTE.

The tranny can be addressed with an R154 swap using 1JZ parts, or by going with an automatic model.

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I was unaware of MS's ability to control VVTi. Up until 2007, MS had issues running on a 7M-GTE and required a decent sized list of 'hacks' to run.
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I was unaware of MS's ability to control VVTi. Up until 2007, MS had issues running on a 7M-GTE and required a decent sized list of 'hacks' to run.
VVTi is another story.
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