Thanks for the reply guys, i checked the fan assembly and it is corroded, looks like it gunked up pretty good from something and they are seized up.
Supra Saiyan thanks for the positive reply and information, i'm just looking for help on my car, so we dont need to turn this into a trash talking thread. when i get the replacement parts in i will definetely use that fan mod, very much appreciated! I bought the car with an aftermarket shroud so i dont have the stock one anymore unfortunately, but thanks for the heads up on everything.
What fitment issues did they have? I've got a couple friends with mishimoto radiators and they've all fit really well, I helped 2 of my friends install thiers and they dropped right in no problem. Quality was actually really good, honestly i've seen pwr and koyo models that have had really poor welds and came with damaged fins and drainplugs so as far as them being cheap as possible I dont agree with, but to each thier own.
oh just so you know koyo's made in china anyway -
http://www.koyorad.co.jp/english/overseas2.html