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Old 01-21-2009, 03:19 PM   #1 (permalink)
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3rd Generation Powersteering

Today when I started my car it made an awful noise. And I noticed the steering felt like it was locked up. When I got out of the car there was a huge puddle of fluid every where. I am going to look at it tomorrow because it is 20 degrees out side, is it the hose that blows off mostly or some thing to do with the pump? What do I need to look for? and Is it an easy fix if it is a hose, would I need any special tools? This is my daily driver, if anyone can help I need help as fast as possible!
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Old 01-21-2009, 07:54 PM   #2 (permalink)
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To me it sounds like you said: the power steering blew out. Basically you've got manual steering now. I don't know how tough it is to replace, but it could be a PITA to replace.
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Old 01-21-2009, 08:04 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Will it mess up the steering rack and pinion if I cut the belt for now? I can't afford the hose right now. I don't want to mess up anything expensive doing this so I wanted to ask.
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Old 01-21-2009, 10:12 PM   #4 (permalink)
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No, and it will be better on the pump that will not tolerate running without fluid long at all.
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Old 01-23-2009, 02:18 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Thanks guys for all the advice, I went and cut the belt off today. It is crazy hard to steer, I never knew that power steering helped out that much. Do I need to grease anything to keep it lubed for now?
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Old 01-24-2009, 12:43 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Nope. There should still be some fluid in the rack, and that will serve the purpose for hte moment. I would get it fixed sometime soon, but some have run like that for years after capping hte hoses off
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Old 01-25-2009, 12:40 PM   #7 (permalink)
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My PS went out too on my 89 supra turbo, its my DD. Not fun, trust me. I didn't care, let it run the pump dry till it stoped gurgleing then pulled the pump. PS is wayyy over-rated... IMPO
Only time its ever hard is from a dead stop, and just roll the car a little and your good to go
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What side of the car was the fluid, drivers or passenger? I just replaced a 3/8" hose (9.5mm) on mine, same thing happened, but it was easy to replace, just cost like $9 (1 quart mobil One ATF and the 12" of hose).
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Mine blew on the drivers side, up near the front. One of the old High pressure rubber lines blew. meh who needs ps anyways, no ps more power to the wheels.
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Mine blew on the drivers side, up near the front. One of the old High pressure rubber lines blew. meh who needs ps anyways, no ps more power to the wheels.
I think there is only 1 high pressure hose, going from the pump to the rack and pinion, the factory set up had just pinch clamps holding the other rubber hose on, not much for high pressure, if you ask me. It is an easy fix.
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Trust me before i pulled my ps out i tried... Several times. Tried 3 dif types of hoses, even one from napa called a high pressure ps hose. it was like 23$ for 3 feet or somethin, but i tried 3 diff hoses, they all come springing pin sized hole leaks from pressure. i called toyota and the only way to get the L shaped hose i need was to buy the whole 330$ hps line thing. If anyone knows what im talkin about and has a spare, let me know. Its a L shape and the ends are like, molded to fit clamps. Its on the front of the drivers side.
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Trust me before i pulled my ps out i tried... Several times. Tried 3 dif types of hoses, even one from napa called a high pressure ps hose. it was like 23$ for 3 feet or somethin, but i tried 3 diff hoses, they all come springing pin sized hole leaks from pressure. i called toyota and the only way to get the L shaped hose i need was to buy the whole 330$ hps line thing. If anyone knows what im talkin about and has a spare, let me know. Its a L shape and the ends are like, molded to fit clamps. Its on the front of the drivers side.
I'm not sure I know what you're talking about. Is this going from the gear box to the rack and pinion? That is the one I replaced just using a 3/8" fuel line, it wasn't high pressure.
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The 3/8 line is the return and I have also used fuel hose there. The high pressure line from the pump to the rack is the expensive one, but there are a couple of hard lines that distribute the pressurized fluid to the left or right side depending on which way you turn that may have failed too. The main high pressure line can be made at any good hydraulic shop for peanuts as well rather than paying Toyota, and if you have the right shopping list, you can purchase the braided teflon line from summit racing and ends to make your own for something less than a hundred.
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The 3/8 line is the return and I have also used fuel hose there. The high pressure line from the pump to the rack is the expensive one, but there are a couple of hard lines that distribute the pressurized fluid to the left or right side depending on which way you turn that may have failed too. The main high pressure line can be made at any good hydraulic shop for peanuts as well rather than paying Toyota, and if you have the right shopping list, you can purchase the braided teflon line from summit racing and ends to make your own for something less than a hundred.
Driftmotion has the AN style high pressure line with the fittings for $65, it was an easy bolt on upgrade.
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I had the rack changed on my 89, and have helped my mechanic swap out the 86's steering rack 3 times (1st time to get sent out to rebuild, then the rebuild one stripped a banjo bolt, and finally the 3rd time we got it right), it's not a fun job at all, but with enough practice, you can get it out and in within a few hours..

It's best to go to a junkyard and take it all out of a donor car with all hoses attached at once and re-install the same way..

just make sure it's the same year supra as yours, or equivalent (86.5-88, and 89+), because 89+'s got progressive power steering, and I'm sure there are a few differences that you don't want to figure out in 20 degree weather..
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