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Old 09-08-2005, 03:31 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Last thread for a while...general info about EVERTHING>>>

K, first, sorry for being a noob, and bugging you guys will threads and posts...

I really need to know what I'm getting myself into here!
87-89 Supra "Mk3, what ever that means, generation???"

I NEED TO KNOW

expensive repaires that may be common, i know clutches and stuff, but something special with the car. example: head gasket

next, basic pricings
saw one for 6k and some peoples said it was WAY to expensive, even with the aftermarket
ask about gasket replacement and other common things

next, recommended upgrades
anything that will give me a boost and a reletevly low cost ie: cam gears, headers that may fit, not sure on construction of engine

next, should i avoid the turbo supra, just for insurance sake??? and install an aftermarket?

next, some nice websites that were built around my year and type of supra

next, When its time for a new clutch, tranny, or engine, what should i look into and what will fit. i dont mind driving this car for a long time, i think they are cool!



and final question for the momment any onl;ine books i can look at

example, haynes repair books, basic components and construction of the 88 or what ever supra
or any books or info that can help me on the construction the the "mk3, trying to learn definitions 87-89 supra, correct me if im worng!"


thanks you so much!!!
-Joe
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Old 09-08-2005, 04:01 PM   #2 (permalink)
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you have used the search function, right?

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Old 09-08-2005, 04:06 PM   #3 (permalink)
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lol, im sorry
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there we go, but i just got more questions and still searching for more of my questions above.

someone or a group of people should make a big ass sticky

7mgte engine swap

1JZ engines

1JZ-GTE swap

7M-GE

7M-GTE

It would be wiser to the 7m-gte swap. They are just the the Chevy 350 you can do anything to them and get massive power.





Trannys….

w58 tranny

R154 (Turbo Transmission)





May I ask what this all means?

Please answer in same order or quote my thread and give the answer next to the engine and tranny. PLZ

Would the swap of both engine and tranny be wize?”later in life oc!”

And prices if possible.

I have acc. To a lift and all the tools, auto shop my friends dad owns



THANKs

And I did search, but it just woke up more questions ive been longing to ask J
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The W58 would be the transmission that backs manual MKII Supras, and non-turbo MKIII Supras. I do believe the non-turbo MKIV Supra uses this tranny as well, but the last 8 digit may be different. It's a pretty strong box.

The R154 transmission is just that, the turbo MKIII transmission. Even stronger than the W58, it's pretty heavy duty stuff. although apparently clutches are more expensive than the W58.

Both are 5-speed transmissions (as opposed to the V160 6-speed unit in the MKIV turbo).

If going from a non-turbo 7M-GE/W58 combo (which would be the case in a MKIII), it's debateable. I'm a firm believer that the W58 is capable of holding the 7M-GTE or turbo'ed 7M-GE. However, if you push boost very much more than stock (say, about 300-350 to the wheels, but don't take this as gold), all bets are off. R154 should handle that without complaint - with a good clutch.

Physically, the engine and transmission swap should be a straightforward affair. Wiring will be your bigger task.




The JZ family of engines (ie, the 1JZ-GTE) are the newer-generation set of inline-sixes that replaced the M series of engines. The 1JZ - offered only in Japan - displaces 2.5L and packs twin turbos (a single turbo + VVT-i in later years). The cost effectiveness of this swap is very much debateable - I feel you're best off putting one in if you can secure one for a good price, and you're replacing a 7M-GE. If you have a 7M-GTE already, you're best off sticking with what you've got. The 2JZ-GTE, a guaranteed-to-be-expensive swap, is another route. But for the money, working with a 7M will still get you so much more.

Turbocharging the 7M-GE is again, a debateable affair. Some say you're best off swapping in a GTE straight-up (or in your case, starting off with one straight-up) instead of all the things you need to do to prep the normally aspirated motor for boost. Even after you complete the turbo project and get it up and running, you still have a lot of tuning work ahead of you - not to mention it's not exactly the same as a 7M-GTE.




Hopefully I used enough keywords in this post to make it pop up for others on future searches. If not: ENGINE SWAP MANUAL TURBO JDM CT26 CT-26 NA N/A blah blah, just a few more keywords
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cool, makes sense. so i would be better off starting stock, work from where i see fit for adding HP and whatnot.
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