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Old 11-02-2005, 03:44 PM   #1 (permalink)
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turbo?

hey, i was wondering if it was possible to attach a turbo (like this one http://www.bullseye-power.com/produc...roducts_id=132) onto a 5SFE engine. I dont know much about workin on cars, but im tryin to get to to know them so i can work on this one. And if the turbo cant be put on there, what engine should i get? Also, is there a better turbo out there for the price of the turbo listed above?
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Old 11-02-2005, 03:54 PM   #2 (permalink)
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For the price of that turbo, you may want to consider doing a swap...

The headaches and money associated with boosting a 5s outwieghs that of a swap.

Swap info: www.paautoracing.com <--- good shop, very reputable
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Old 11-04-2005, 10:23 PM   #3 (permalink)
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anyone else have any info?
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Old 11-05-2005, 02:05 AM   #4 (permalink)
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For the price of that turbo, you may want to consider doing a swap...

The headaches and money associated with boosting a 5s outwieghs that of a swap.

Swap info: www.paautoracing.com <--- good shop, very reputable

I agree with this. You're not just looking at the price of the turbo. You're also looking at the price of all the supporting mods to turn a 5sfe into a turbo. That description says that it bolts on, but I'll bet you bones to ballerinas that they mean onto a 3sgte, not a 5sfe.

To get even a 3sgte up to the 300-450whp range they talk about you're looking at some pretty serious investment.

This is about the turbo motor, not the NA but it will still give you a broad strokes picture of what you're looking at: http://www.mrcontrols.com/primers/power.htm
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Old 11-05-2005, 05:42 AM   #5 (permalink)
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anyone know if i have to change anything to put a 3sfe(the turbo engine) inot a the N/A version? And if i do get that engine in what turbo should i buy for it?
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Old 11-05-2005, 01:54 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Try these

MR2Board.com

MR2OC.com

The short of it is you will need to change out the following.

Engine (Duh)
Transmission
Axels
Hubs
Fuel Pump
ECU
Engine harness
Exhaust
Shift cables

You can swap the engine without changing the transmission or fuel pump but there are limitations to both of those NA components.
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Old 11-16-2005, 12:39 AM   #7 (permalink)
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anyone know if i have to change anything to put a 3sfe(the turbo engine) inot a the N/A version? And if i do get that engine in what turbo should i buy for it?

3sgte not 3sfe
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Old 11-17-2005, 11:33 AM   #8 (permalink)
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save yourself all the headaches involved with doing a swap..and just get a turbo in the first place....
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Old 12-10-2005, 10:24 PM   #9 (permalink)
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save yourself all the headaches involved with doing a swap..and just get a turbo in the first place....
Seriously. Unless you get a super screaming deal on the NA, it's a lot better to go turbo at the start. That said, I still think the NA is a great, fun, and very reliable car.

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Old 12-10-2005, 11:20 PM   #10 (permalink)
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bah, i think its cheaper to go with a N/A. Considering buying a turbo straight out is double insurance. Also my na was 4000, then 2.5 for the rear clip of the 2nd gen 3SGTE. and generally the rear clips only have like 40k miles on them, while buying a straight out turbo has around 100k+. From looking around when i was looking for a car, turbos were atleast double the price of the NA i bought. Yes the turbos have mods, but not the mods i wanted for the most part. And all the turbos had wheels, but not the ones i wanted. So either 6.5k for a turbo mr2 with around 40k on engine, or 8-10k for a turbo with over 100k on the engine and some mods that id end up replacing anyway. And id save over 1k on insurance every 6 months. So from my research, and turbo swap is cheaper!
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Insurance depends on the company. Insurance on my NA is slightly higher than either of my turbos. I know that's probably not the norm though. As far as swaps go, alot depends on your resources for being able to perform the swap. For many, having to pay someone to do a swap makes it more cost prohibitive.
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And id save over 1k on insurance every 6 months.
If you swap the turbo engine into the NA, it would behoove you to notify your insurance company.

In fact, it might be wise to ask them before you go down this path.
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Old 12-12-2005, 11:33 AM   #13 (permalink)
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ah hyde, i was just wondering why? Ok, so if i get into an accident they wont cover the turbo i put on(so what). I dont really see the point, ill just get charge an extra 1000 for nothing. They dont have to know..
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ah hyde, i was just wondering why? Ok, so if i get into an accident they wont cover the turbo i put on(so what). I dont really see the point, ill just get charge an extra 1000 for nothing. They dont have to know..

it could very well be considered insurance fraud by not disclosing this information...check with the laws in your area....
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it could very well be considered insurance fraud by not disclosing this information...check with the laws in your area....
thats very true. one of the questions they ask when getting an MR2 insured is" turbo or N/A? if they should find out different, they would not have to honor your policy. it IS fraud. but like you said-only if they find out. but a wreck could do just that.
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