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Old 11-03-2005, 08:38 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Newbie To Mr2 What Are My Options

Okay I new to this I’m not new to the car game but I’m new to the Mr2 so I have a few questions for now.
  1. The stock motor in the car I believe it’s a 5sfe or some shit, is it iron block or is it aluminum?
  2. I notice there is a 3sgte that gets swapped in and I have been told all I need to perform this is to get the 2.0 turbo clutch flywheel and pressure plate. Is this accurate?
  3. Is there anything else needed when you buy the turbo motor basically is it a direct swap?
  4. Is the stock motor reliable to boost and up to what Psi?
  5. How does the stock motor hold up to nitrous? Hmm lets say 100 shot
  6. Okay is the order to take the motor out: axles, cross member, shift linkage, wire harness, mounts?
  7. Okay If I wanted to get 350whp what would I need 2 do?
  8. How much can the axles hold? how strong are they
Please if you have some detailed websites pertaining to the MR2 give it to me thanks.
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Old 11-03-2005, 09:24 AM   #2 (permalink)
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try mr2oc.com. great site! oh def take a look under "general dicussoin" -> sticky "mr2 as a first car" if you havent owned one before. good read insight on the twos. (you have to register to read post >__<)
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Originally Posted by Wiisdom
Okay I new to this I’m not new to the car game but I’m new to the Mr2 so I have a few questions for now.
  1. The stock motor in the car I believe it’s a 5sfe or some shit, is it iron block or is it aluminum?
  2. I notice there is a 3sgte that gets swapped in and I have been told all I need to perform this is to get the 2.0 turbo clutch flywheel and pressure plate. Is this accurate?
  3. Is there anything else needed when you buy the turbo motor basically is it a direct swap?
  4. Is the stock motor reliable to boost and up to what Psi?
  5. How does the stock motor hold up to nitrous? Hmm lets say 100 shot
  6. Okay is the order to take the motor out: axles, cross member, shift linkage, wire harness, mounts?
  7. Okay If I wanted to get 350whp what would I need 2 do?
  8. How much can the axles hold? how strong are they
Please if you have some detailed websites pertaining to the MR2 give it to me thanks.
iron
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yes
yes, enough.
fine, not ofr long
spend lots of money
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WTF?? he asked 8 stupid questions without doing research and you only answered 7 of them in a smart manner!!?? Talk about rude.....
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Old 11-03-2005, 02:29 PM   #5 (permalink)
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okay why would I think the toyota board is any different of course i searched but unlike http://www.honda-tech.com the http://www.toyotanation.com web site search engine sucks...so thanks for answering my questions like an ass..again i searched found alot of not shit.......
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Old 11-03-2005, 02:36 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Wiisdom
Okay I new to this I’m not new to the car game but I’m new to the Mr2 so I have a few questions for now.
  1. The stock motor in the car I believe it’s a 5sfe or some shit, is it iron block or is it aluminum?
  2. I notice there is a 3sgte that gets swapped in and I have been told all I need to perform this is to get the 2.0 turbo clutch flywheel and pressure plate. Is this accurate?
  3. Is there anything else needed when you buy the turbo motor basically is it a direct swap?
  4. Is the stock motor reliable to boost and up to what Psi?
  5. How does the stock motor hold up to nitrous? Hmm lets say 100 shot
  6. Okay is the order to take the motor out: axles, cross member, shift linkage, wire harness, mounts?
  7. Okay If I wanted to get 350whp what would I need 2 do?
  8. How much can the axles hold? how strong are they
Please if you have some detailed websites pertaining to the MR2 give it to me thanks.
1) 5sfe is iron block.. so is the 3sgte
2) what do you mean to perform?... a better clutch will last longer since the OEM clutch sucks.. flywheel get a fidenza one
3) nope direct swap
4) 3sgte is a good engine and can take a beating.. thats not the problem.. the stock turbo is the problem.. CT26 can be bossted to around 14PSI safely.. but i would just upgrade it to a JDM one (CT20B) or better..
5) niterous.. i heard they can be pretty good.. but i dont know much about it.. search mr2oc.com niterous section
6) i have no clue what your talking about.. just take it out haha
7) 350whp = fuel upgrade (injector, rail, standalone), TD06 turbo or in that range, upgraded intercooler (spearco is my choice), downpipe, exhaust, intake, forged pistons if you want to go the extra mile... other things to consider is .. clutch, flywheel,
8) axles are tough but if you are gonna go beyond 400whp there are custom axles sold by ATS


hope that helped a bit
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There is a difference between hondatech and toyotanation- Everyone on hondatech is a douche bag who thinks they're gods gift to earth, this is including but not limited to most honda owners (which is why I decided to get an mr2 instead of an R)
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There is a difference between hondatech and toyotanation- Everyone on hondatech is a douche bag who thinks they're gods gift to earth, this is including but not limited to most honda owners (which is why I decided to get an mr2 instead of an R)
wow man..that is so damn true..lol. most honda ricers need to be shout..they just fucked up douche bags that think they know all but dont acually know anything.
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Originally Posted by Wiisdom
Okay I new to this I’m not new to the car game but I’m new to the Mr2 so I have a few questions for now.
  1. The stock motor in the car I believe it’s a 5sfe or some shit, is it iron block or is it aluminum?
  2. I notice there is a 3sgte that gets swapped in and I have been told all I need to perform this is to get the 2.0 turbo clutch flywheel and pressure plate. Is this accurate?
  3. Is there anything else needed when you buy the turbo motor basically is it a direct swap?
  4. Is the stock motor reliable to boost and up to what Psi?
  5. How does the stock motor hold up to nitrous? Hmm lets say 100 shot
  6. Okay is the order to take the motor out: axles, cross member, shift linkage, wire harness, mounts?
  7. Okay If I wanted to get 350whp what would I need 2 do?
  8. How much can the axles hold? how strong are they
Please if you have some detailed websites pertaining to the MR2 give it to me thanks.
Heya Wiisdom. Welcome to toyotanation and please forgive the resident jackassery. I think they forgot to take their meds or something.

The info that Kimchi604 gave you pretty much covers your questions so I thought I'd point you at a couple of websites. You can find a lot of info on modding the MR2 in any way you can imagine at http://www.mr2oc.com. This power primer hosted by one of the mr2oc.com vendors is a really good way to get an idea of what it'll take to hit your whp goals: http://www.mrcontrols.com/primers/power.htm
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Thanks the last link you gave me says it all...thanks for the info thats all I needed but there is one more thing about the 5sfe tranny...

1. does it bolt up to the 3sgte
2. I heard that I have to use the turbo 3sgte clutch flywheel and pressure plate in order to bolt up to the 5sfe tranny...is this true?

about the trubo um will a t3/t4 bolt right up? I know how to route the plumbing but does it bolt up?

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Thanks the last link you gave me says it all...thanks for the info thats all I needed but there is one more thing about the 5sfe tranny...

1. does it bolt up to the 3sgte
2. I heard that I have to use the turbo 3sgte clutch flywheel and pressure plate in order to bolt up to the 5sfe tranny...is this true?

about the trubo um will a t3/t4 bolt right up? I know how to route the plumbing but does it bolt up?
1 Yes it bolts right up, even the starter works fine.

2 Yes you will need the 3S-gte flywheel pressure plate and disk. The NA transmission will work just fine, most people never get to a point where they need to upgrade the axels. The CV's are a little weaker on the axels for the NA transmission. The ratios are shorter than the 3S tranny too, so you will go through the first couple of gears very fast. Short ratio transmission + turbo is not so fun IMO

No, a T3 or T4 will require at least an adapter.

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Thanks the last link you gave me says it all...thanks for the info thats all I needed but there is one more thing about the 5sfe tranny...

1. does it bolt up to the 3sgte
2. I heard that I have to use the turbo 3sgte clutch flywheel and pressure plate in order to bolt up to the 5sfe tranny...is this true?

about the trubo um will a t3/t4 bolt right up? I know how to route the plumbing but does it bolt up?
Something else you may want to take into consideration is that LSD tranny was an option for turbos. Might be worth tracking one down.
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