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Old 04-02-2006, 11:10 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hyde's Firecharger system installed (pics)

Well, I finally got around to installing the Firecharger fire suppression system into Hyde. It's ironic to spend quality dollars on something you hope you never get to use. ... sort of like insurance.

At any rate, between the number of seriously modified MR2s I have seen burned, the type of racing I am doing and the safety requirements for the types of racing I plan on doing ... it was time.

This is not the sexiest install, but it is functional which is most important.
It took me a little over 4 hours, but I could do it a lot better, cleaner and faster if I started all over with a new kit. I learned a lot in installing this (like using a tube flaring kit )

In the first photo you will see the nozzle mounted below the ignition. This will spray on my lap & legs in the event the system is activated. You will also see the activation trigger mounted next to the ash tray with the safety pin installed so the system is not accidentally triggered.



In the second photo you will see the second aluminum line that goes to the engine bay. It enters through the grommet that was used for the cruise control. The line continues across the firewall to the mounting location of the second nozzle. This one is aimed at the turbo & oil lines.


The last photo is the mounting of the actually bottle. Inside the aluminum box is a CO2 cartridge. When the trigger of the system is pulled, it activates a lever inside that box that puntures the CO2 cartridge which in turn pressures the bottle underneath it sending the mixture of water and fire suppression solution out to the nozzles. At the cap for the bottle you can see where the lines for the nozzles beging.

I chose to mount the bottle in this location for a few reasons:
1. Weight: it has some weight to it and that could beneft balance being on the passenger side
2. It's directly in front of a grommet for the engine bay which made routing easier.
3. It's behind the passenger seat and well mounted between the roll bar & firewall so in the event of a crash, the system should be safe.



Over all the install was not too bad or overly challenging. The major point of frustration for me was bending the end of the cable to fit into the hole in the trigger lever. There's not a lot of room to work in there and bending metal to poke in and out of a hole all while make at least two curves kinda sucked.

The only other obstacle was deciding where to mount everything. You are limited by the length of the lines & cable and also the trigger requires some healthy depth behind where it mounted.
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Old 04-02-2006, 12:23 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Thumbs up. This is a very good idea.
It's nice to see people put money into safety feature as well as performance upgrade.
It makes me think sometimes, car is just a car, a toy. Unlike the driver, it will always be replaceable.
I hope you will never have to use it.
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Old 04-02-2006, 12:38 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Very good idea and nice install aswell. I have been thinking about something like this recently. Melted some plastic I thought was plenty of distance away from the manifold. That just goes to show that when you subject a car to extreem stress (like hyde gets to endure on a regular basis) unusual things can fail in unexpected ways.

Thumbs up on a very clean install and I hope more ppl follow your example.
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Old 04-02-2006, 03:26 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Looks good! As for your "not the sexiest install" a friend once told me that the MR2 is not a 'loving' car its a fast car. this is more true for your MR2 than for mine (which is where the comment came from).

A little off topic, but i noticed you have the factory seat belt on the passenger side (these are suprisingly heavy) and you may be able to lose a bit more weight by switching to a 4-5 point harness.
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Old 04-02-2006, 03:29 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by JekylandHyde
It's ironic to spend quality dollars on something you hope you never get to use. ... sort of like insurance.
It is insurance... health insurance
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Old 04-02-2006, 04:49 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Dane I have both sets of belts on the driver's side.

A 4- and 5-point belt should only be used with a roll bar & helmet.
That's something my passengers generally are not wearing so they can stick with the OEM belts. I'll take safety over weight.
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cool.. every 2 should have one...Dane you're next since you're hitting the track now...
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Old 04-03-2006, 03:23 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Jeff, I just thought that your passengers would wear helmets, but hey, i was just pointing it out

Haha Russ! I doubt ill have a need for a fire supression system for some time now... my MR2 jsut isnt modified very heavily at all... im hoping that will all change over the next couple years.
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^^ Modification has little to do with it. It has more to do with running your car at the ragged edged where stuff is exponentially more likely to go wrong.

Jeff, did you get your system from safedrives or somewhere else? My car is going to be spending as much time as I can squeeze out running with NASA this summer
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I set up a group buy on the FireCharger systems on MR2OC through Pack Racing.
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nice install there Dr! have you tested the system after the install?
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When you are doing the install, the only thing that can be tested is if the trigger mechanism allows full swing the lever that punctures the CO2 cartridge.

You can't test anything else as you would punture the CO2 cartridge which would pressure the system and the solution would be sprayed ... and you would have to refill it and re-set it up. It's not a like a sprkinler system that you can just turn on a little bit and see water comes out. It's a pressurized systme the would evacuated itself 100%.

The solution is highly corrosive and would need to be diluted with lots of water and cleaned up ASAP.

That being said, I hope I never find out how well it all works
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