ebay SSAutoChrome intercooler kit

[victor91mr2]

whats up.

I am looking for people that has purchased or has knowledge of the ebay SSAutoChrome intercooler. I want to know if you are satisfied with the quality and service of SSAC. $400 for a intercooler is damn appealing yet i don't spend 400want to on a POS. Is the quality and performance really campairible to the greddy IC. The only thing that turns me away from this kit is the steel IC tubing but other than that the IC looks legit.

Thanks alot
victor

[NU2MR2]

I have one in my SW20 and it seems to be fine...it really makes it so you can hear the turbo spool!

[JekylandHyde]

The good:
*The people who have bought them seem to not have any major problems
*It does seem to make some good power

The bad:
*buying this IC encourages the copying of other companies which ultimately will encourage people to stop making original parts for our cars.

Buy cheap to day and have no support or nerw products in the future!

[victor91mr2]

very true JekylandHyde i never really looked at it from that perspective.

[nepopolus]

i was just talking to my freinds about getting one of these (would get greddy but i dont have a ton of money to get one) thewy where saying i should upgrade other things because having a stock ct-26 and getting a upgraded intercooler would just make it lag more does that seem accurate to you guys?

[Strat42586]

stock intercooler is good for 16-17 psi safely. So get things like exhaust, intake, boost controller, fuel cut defencer. check http://www.mrcontrols.com/primers/power.htm for more specific information

[JekylandHyde]

An upgraded intercooler like the ones here are not going to increase lag.
Your friends are sreiously mis-informed.

Getting an IC like this, even with the CT26, will reduce intake temps, reduce how hard your turbo has to work to maintain the same PSI and make the set up more efficient overall.

It's an all benefits kind of mod.

[Strat42586]

I can't argue with J&H at all. I'm running a CT-27, rom tuned, then added GReddy intercooler all on stock exhaust. I love having an intecooler though, made a difference at higher RPMS.

[wantamr2]

Originally Posted by JekylandHyde

The good:
*The people who have bought them seem to not have any major problems
*It does seem to make some good power

The bad:
*buying this IC encourages the copying of other companies which ultimately will encourage people to stop making original parts for our cars.

Buy cheap to day and have no support or nerw products in the future!

I kind of disagree with you on the the bad part. Healthy competition should help lower the price of the intercoolers from greddy to compete. From the looks of it, quality seems on par to the Greddy at almost a fraction of the cost. I don't think we should pay some much for performance parts just because it has a big name stamped on it.

[Piddy]

Originally Posted by wantamr2

I kind of disagree with you on the the bad part. Healthy competition should help lower the price of the intercoolers from greddy to compete. From the looks of it, quality seems on par to the Greddy at almost a fraction of the cost. I don't think we should pay some much for performance parts just because it has a big name stamped on it.

Yea... but who did all of the R&D to get the intercooler on the market in the first place?

[JekylandHyde]

Originally Posted by wantamr2

I kind of disagree with you on the the bad part. Healthy competition should help lower the price of the intercoolers from greddy to compete. From the looks of it, quality seems on par to the Greddy at almost a fraction of the cost. I don't think we should pay some much for performance parts just because it has a big name stamped on it.

EXAMPLE 1

Company A invests in research & design to make an intercooler.
Then they buy parts and pay labor costs to make the intercooler.
Then they determine a fair market price on what they have invested with a reasonable expectation of making a profit.

Company B invests in research & design to make an intercooler.
Then they buy parts and pay labor costs to make the intercooler.
Then they determine a fair market price on what they have invested with a reasonable expectation of making a profit.

They are competing with their OWN individual products/designs.

EXAMPLE 2

Company A invests in research & design to make an intercooler.
Then they buy parts and pay labor costs to make the intercooler.
Then they determine a fair market price on what they have invested with a reasonable expectation of making a profit.

Company B buys Company A's intercooler.
Then they pay people in China, India, etc ... to COPY IT with inferior materials.
Then they determine market price based on what they have invested with a reasonable expectation of making a profit.

They are competing with Company A's products/designs.

You REALLY think that EXAMPLE 2 is Healthy competition?!

*sigh*

[Zero turbo]

^ well is healthy for us poor people that cant buy the big name brands LOL ...... But is true what you say.But there are some preformance parts that are not such a big name and they are cheap and good quality example ATS cam gears $200 the pair.

[wantamr2]

Ok Jekyl, I can see your point. I'll just explain my point of view. In my case I can't bring myself to spend the kind of money the Greddy intercooler sells for. So instead of leaving us poorer folk out in the cold, SS comes out with a good quality version that I would actually consider.

I don't think only you guys get to have all the fun....

[JekylandHyde]

wantamr2, I understand you wanting it and I can't really say I would blame you for buying it.
It's not that "SS came out with a godo quality version."
They STOLE it. They COPIED it.

It's no different than the copied body kits and everything else that is stolen in the world.
Modified magazien has done a huge feature on this issue the past few months.
I think the story has run for 3 issues now.

[JekylandHyde]

Another example is 2 years ago I made a "You can run, but you can't HYDE" DVD.
I put HOURS into making that thing and YEARS into recording footage.
As soon as I posted it for sale, several people made posts like:

"Someone buy it an put it up on XXX file share."

"Someone buy it and make copies."

Etc ... I am hoping/planning on mkaing another DVD this year,
but what's my motivation if people are just going to steal it?