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Old 09-05-2006, 07:37 PM   #1 (permalink)
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No Clutch Pressure

I'm at a loss. My gen2 is becoming a pain in my a$$. I was losing clutch pressure (having to pump the pedal) and then completely lost it for good a couple of weeks ago, so I replaced my master and slave cylinders. Now I still have no pressure at all. I have taken everything apart, blew air through all the lines twice and still nothing! I even took both cylinders apart this time and both looked fine. I've blead the lines numerous times. Any ideas?
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Old 09-05-2006, 08:27 PM   #2 (permalink)
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check the push rod play and freeplay adjust point on the clutch pedal. i had the same problem about week ago putting in a new clutch, i messed with the push rod and it actually gave me a little more pressure.
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Old 09-05-2006, 08:31 PM   #3 (permalink)
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use a vacuum pump to bleed it or bench-bleed it..... master cylinders on mr2's are a pain in the ass to get the air out of....
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Does the slave cylinder piston/rod/clutch fork move any when you press on the clutch pedal? If so, you are off to a good start. The system can require a lot of bleeding to get out all the air, and get full travel on the slave cylinder!
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Just checked again, and the slave isn't moving. Could it be a bad slave? I did take it apart and inspect it and it looked ok. Should I try returning it for a new one?
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No, not a bad slave. Maybe a bad master but I doubt it. Keep bleeding.
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Old 09-07-2006, 08:21 PM   #7 (permalink)
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ditto to what toyotaspeed says, plus since you have messed with it, take part back and start fresh part, bleeding the clutch hydrolics on a Mr2 can often be a PITA getting all the air out.
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Can someone give me a quick explanation on how to bench bleed and\or vacuum bleed a master cylinder? I'm fairly mechanical, but by no means an expert.
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The links below might help understand the situation.

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articl...23/ai_n6083417

http://www.benreedjohnson.com/?p=84
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Well, I bled and bled and bled today and made sure there was no air in the system. I then pushed on the slave while the wife pumped the pedal. The slave slowly built up pressure, so I removed it and had the shop order a replacement....so now I wait another few days.
Anyone know of a vacuum bleeding system?
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master cylinder requires bench bleeding to be installed... if you did not do it prior to install and are trying to do it afterwards you will most likely be at a loss since you were forcing the master cylinder to operate dry and possible torn the piston seals inside.
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I doubt the seals are torn since they have been coated with the required lithium grease. Can someone explain how I would bench bleed the master? I've searched the web, but am not finding any good info for anything similar to the MR2.
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Bench bleeding, is bleeding the air out of the master cylinder when it is out of the car. Usually the cylinder is put into a vice, hoses connected, fluid added. Then the piston is moved until all the air is out of the master cylinder. The links below will give you a good idea of the process.

http://www.misterfixit.com/brakbld1.htm

http://www.superchevy.com/technical/.../0509sc_bench/
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Old 09-17-2006, 10:47 PM   #15 (permalink)
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New slave installed, master bench bled, and still no pressure. The slave only moves when I hold pressure against it while someone else pumps the pedal. I'm taking the master in to get a new one.
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