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Old 10-15-2006, 10:47 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Trying to learn what I can about this car. Might buy one, its a nice looking car. I guess its between this and a Miata. Is this a zero clearance engine. I mean if the timing belt breaks, valves hit pistons? Is regular no lead ok or does it require premium gas? How do these 2 cars, MR2 and Miata compare. Looking for a jap 2-seat convertable to just use in the fall and/or late summer for fun.
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Old 10-15-2006, 12:31 PM   #2 (permalink)
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look any car that you buy, if the timing chain breaks the pistons and the vales will beet and have a chat. all cars this can happen to. all the way up to large pick-up engines. if you are only buying a car that this wont happen to then buy a car with a rotary engine.... mazda rx7 or 8. all of these cars can run on low grade octane gas. except for anything with a turbocharger. turbocharged cars will require high octane. like 97 octane or 93.
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Sadly, I know more about the Miata than I know about the MR2, but that's because my mom has a Miata, but hopefully I'll be getting my MR2 soon. The main difference between the two cars is that a Miata is an FR car (front engine, rear wheel drive), and the MR2 is MR (Mid-engine [in front of the real axle], rear wheel drive).

Now, I'm not too sure about the different generations, but I think generally the MR2 has more leg room than the Miata, which is very important for a long-legged guy like me.

Other than that, I don't know any major differences other than the fact that the Miata is a convertible, and all MR2s beside the MKIII are hard-top, T-top, and I think some have a moon roof.
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Old 10-15-2006, 03:01 PM   #4 (permalink)
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MR2s are great cars, my mom owns a Miata - which we JUST bought a few weeks ago so here is what I remember. Whichever you go with make sure of a few things:

mr2s are non interference motors, if the timing belt goes then it wont hurt anything
miata: miata are intereference motors, if the timing belt goes, it destroys everything. Timing belts on miatas are to be changed ever 75K miles. MAKE SURE THEY HAVE RECIEPTS OF LAST CHANGE!!!!! however, a parts car miata with a good engine can run you only about 500$ where as a parts car mr2 is a lot more money.


in a miata the ECU is stored on the floor of the vehicle. any rust on the floor boards could potentially spell out a bad ECU in your future.

mr2s are more spacious by far than the miata, i'm short (5'1) even in themiata I couldn't really get close enough to the pedals to feel 100% comfortable while driving, a taller person would be comfortable. (I know of miata and mr2 owners over 6')

MR2: body parts are all interchangable from the same generation. 85-89 is interchangable, 91-95 is interchangable, IDK about MKIII.

miata: all body panels are interchangable, 1990-1999 or more. Parts are easy to come by.

convertible top in miata: you can buy a brand new one off of ebay for about 260$ shipped if you get a bad tear. CHECK fOR TEARs. The B pillar in the miata convertible has a tendency to rub on the lining. check this.

miata: stock stereo will not work if you put the wrong security code in 3 times. (it will never work again) they come with a din.5 size stereo, so if you go aftermarket you'll need access to ebay to buy the appropriate dash kit because all the stores that should carry it, don't.

miata vs mr2: storage wise the mr2 is the best way to go, there is more storage room in the trunk, in the inside, and in the front trunk than the miata can offer. miata supports a different sized luggage area though, you could fit a suitcase in the miata where it might be more difficult with the mr2.

miata hardtops sell in various colors for about 400$

if you get a miata, buy a roll bar if it isnt already equipped with one, they sell for about 120$

sound system: I prefer mr2 stock sound system than miata stock sound system. depending what package of miata you choose, there arent speakers in the headrests in all of them (there wasnt in my moms and she has a difficult time hearing her stock stereo while driving)

both cars are a LOT of fun to drive, I really liked how sensitive of steering the miata has, I felt completely in control despite the fact i could barely reach the pedals.

lights behind the dash (gauges) are hard to see at night in the miata.

the side markers freaked me out in the miata at night, but i realized what it was.

they both take regular gas if you prefer.

blue book on both vehicles is incorrect.

i can say i enjoy the miata a lot, i enjoy driving it, convertible is fun too, but at the end of the day i'm glad that i'm getting into my mr2
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It is a non-interface engine... if the belt snaps you are fine. The guy in the second post has no idea what he is talking about on so many levels... but we aren't going to get into that.... I would just disregard everything he said.

If you are going to buy an MR2 Turbo... I would suggest you have a second car. Not that they aren't reliable... I daily drove mine for a good year (even though I had a DD... the MR2 was just more fun ) and didn't have any problems. The biggest thing is most parts take FOREVER to get... so your downtime can be more than expected sometimes.

As for space... you will be fine in an MR2. We have some owners that are pretty damn big. I'm personally 6'1... 190.... and it is probably the most confortable car I've ever owned. It is the only car I've EVER driven that I don't have to put the seat all of the way back in to drive comfortably.

I don't know about the Miata... but the MR2 should run premium gas (91-94 octane... whatever you can get where you live). They are both fun cars to rail around on.. but being a biased MR2 owner... I would go with the MR2. Easier to get power out of, better looks IMO. They were both hairdresser cars of their time... ha.
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i use 87 on my car and it runs great. i think its just preference, i also drive an n.a. if i had a turbo i would run higher octane just to make things smoother.

oh another note:

both cars hold their value pretty darn well!
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i use 87 on my car and it runs great. i think its just preference, i also drive an n.a. if i had a turbo i would run higher octane just to make things smoother.

oh another note:

both cars hold their value pretty darn well!

What % tint is on your car?? .... it is utterly perfect.
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Side windows are an old 70% (theyre purple-ish now and faded) the back I believe and the quaters are 5% mirror tint. I love the tint on my car, it just looks a little funky from the side view. heres more pics of the car:

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This picture...


... it looks really good. The rest look a little wacky.

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This picture...


... it looks really good. The rest look a little wacky.

that was one of the first pictures.
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I'm torn between tinting and not tinting. I want to tint... but I fear getting pulled over. I don't mind a tint ticket... but the fact that my car stinks of unadulterated catless exhaust fumes... and the fact that California is the smog nazi capital of the world.... I sometimes think I should play it safe.
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I'm torn between tinting and not tinting. I want to tint... but I fear getting pulled over. I don't mind a tint ticket... but the fact that my car stinks of unadulterated catless exhaust fumes... and the fact that California is the smog nazi capital of the world.... I sometimes think I should play it safe.
you can go as dark as you want on the quater windows and the rear window, the front 2 sides varies from state to state. i know in PA 30% is the legal limit, i have 70%, and I paqid to have my bfs truck done in 30% for his birthday.

he has his windows up all the time, andnever gets stopped. but hes friends with the police.

my windows are down all the time unless imnot near the car, or its raining. so idk how much attention it gets. my car gets a lot of attention from the color, whatever your limit is you could probably do 10% darker,


my bad, my car is 25/5 (i got it confused) the% is the % of light it lets through, and mine arent legal.
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THANKS EVERYONE, Great answers, I'm leaning toward the MR2 based on your info and the fact that its prettier to me and the mid-engine design. Love those functional engine cooling openings on the sides too! I live in MA and won't have it on the road more then a couple months a year. Had an MGB once. I'd put it in the catagory of one of the 10 worst cars ever made. But then it was a 1980. Probably the worst year for them. Thanks again, I'll be back
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Look forward to seeing you around Good luck with your purchase!
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you can go as dark as you want on the quater windows and the rear window, the front 2 sides varies from state to state. i know in PA 30% is the legal limit, i have 70%, and I paqid to have my bfs truck done in 30% for his birthday.

he has his windows up all the time, andnever gets stopped. but hes friends with the police.

my windows are down all the time unless imnot near the car, or its raining. so idk how much attention it gets. my car gets a lot of attention from the color, whatever your limit is you could probably do 10% darker,


my bad, my car is 25/5 (i got it confused) the% is the % of light it lets through, and mine arent legal.
It is illigal to have any tint what-so-ever on the front windows in Cali. I had my Supra done 10% rear and 20% front.... and every time I got pulled over they mentioned it.... and finally I got a ticket and had to pull it off. But the Surpa wasn't modded like the 2.... I don't like to give the bastards reasons to pull me over.
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