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***MR2Jedi*** · 03-07-2007, 06:35 AM

Anyone know where I can purchase the tool for the headbolts for the 3sgte.?
The dealership had me wait 5 fricken weeks only to tell me it didn't come and they can't locate one...what a waste of time...

ToyotaTechGeek · 03-07-2007, 08:08 AM

deep 12 point 12 mm..real deep. and thin wall or with the shank up high. hit-up a snap-on man!

***MR2Jedi*** · 03-07-2007, 12:07 PM

The outside of the head bolt is round and smooth.. it's something like a torque bit..female with serrated edges on the inside.

ToyotaTechGeek · 03-07-2007, 01:05 PM

it's a 12 point...
are those stock headbolts?

tHa kNiGHt FaLL · 03-07-2007, 02:53 PM

its a torx bit foo...

prolly somewhere between a T25 to a T45...

ToyotaTechGeek · 03-07-2007, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by tHa kNiGHt FaLL

its a torx bit foo...

prolly somewhere between a T25 to a T45...

first of all, foo, the 3SGT-E in an ST165 uses the tool i described. second, a torx bit is also 12 points...

***MR2Jedi*** · 03-07-2007, 08:02 PM

Thanks guys...I found one today. Got it from the Matco tool guy. It's a 12mm 12 point hex bit-1/2 drive. He knew exactly what I was talking about. He even new it was for a Toyota. Tried the Snap On guy 1st. He knew what it was too, but didn't have one in stock. He refered me to the Matco guy. He just happens to live a few blocks from me. Kinda pricey though. $39.90 with tax(9%)...
Damn! I can't believe Toyota dicked me around like that. What a waste of time....

***MR2Jedi*** · 03-07-2007, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ToyotaTechGeek

it's a 12 point...
are those stock headbolts?

As far as I know they are. Like I said, the Matco and Snap On guys knew what I was talking about..I shoulda asked you weeks ago about this. Trying the independent tool guys was the way to go..

tHa kNiGHt FaLL · 03-07-2007, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ToyotaTechGeek

first of all, foo, the 3SGT-E in an ST165 uses the tool i described. second, a torx bit is also 12 points...

fancy name for a torx bit on a stick...

and its a SST 09043 - 38100 per the manual. (Page EM-71)

and just cause you desribed it doesn't make it right... and doesn't mean torque bit wouldn't work... i kno people that use 12mm allen keys and get away w/ that working too

***MR2Jedi*** · 03-07-2007, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by tHa kNiGHt FaLL

fancy name for a torx bit on a stick...

and its a SST 09043 - 38100 per the manual. (Page EM-71)

and just cause you desribed it doesn't make it right... and doesn't mean torque bit wouldn't work... i kno people that use 12mm allen keys and get away w/ that working too

yeah, I gave the Toyota guys that part #...for what its worth.. and they still didn't come thru...
They tool guys did show me some other bits that were really close, but I wanted it to fit perfectly snug. can you imagine stripping out the bolt while it's still in the head... what a nightmare and hassle. anyway, I got what I needed.. Matco part # CQL12M2B
and get this, he described the difference between the Asian and European versions..
Asian= double hex bit... hex=6 sides x 2 = 12 points.
European= 3 squares =4 sides x3=12 points
The only difference is the angle of the points...

tHa kNiGHt FaLL · 03-07-2007, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by MR2BAD

yeah, I gave the Toyota guys that part #...for what its worth.. and they still didn't come thru...
They tool guys did show me some other bits that were really close, but I wanted it to fit perfectly snug. can you imagine stripping out the bolt while it's still in the head... what a nightmare and hassle. anyway, I got what I needed.. Matco part # CQL12M2B
and get this, he described the difference between the Asian and European versions..
Asian= double hex bit... hex=6 sides x 2 = 12 points.
European= 3 squares =4 sides x3=12 points
The only difference is the angle of the points...

yea... it was a guy from Europe that used the 12mm allen key... it didn't grab all 12 points... but it did come out w/o stripping it.

i understand your concern for the right tool.

but thats why god invented drills and locking extractors

***MR2Jedi*** · 03-07-2007, 09:06 PM

eh, been down that road before. But not with a headbolt.. I do have an extractor set.. but I try my best to avoid needing them..

ToyotaTechGeek · 03-07-2007, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by tHa kNiGHt FaLL

fancy name for a torx bit on a stick...

and its a SST 09043 - 38100 per the manual. (Page EM-71)

and just cause you desribed it doesn't make it right... and doesn't mean torque bit wouldn't work... i kno people that use 12mm allen keys and get away w/ that working too

simply ghetto!