figured I would show you, since you all seem to be so keen on the lack of performance aspects of cut springs
He starts off with saying "Nearly all the skid marks that go straight into the wall of cones at the finish are mine."
And the next post is: "Christ. Did you ever not DNF?'
Finishing 24th out of 40 cars is not exactly a great testament to the car's perforamce either.
6 seconds from first and nearly 3 seconds behind both drivers in the 85 MR2 ... and you are claiming this car has more power than theirs?
What exactly am I missing that should convince me of the merits of cut springs?
I do not see more time on course and/or going off course as a peformance benefit.
man, you should know damned well that the car only equals 30% in a 100% equation. the car (if at 100%) only equals 30%. if springs are cut, yeah, they are oftentimes dangerous due to many, many factors, but in the end, it is still 70% driver.
Last edited by ToyotaTechGeek; 03-28-2007 at 08:00 AM.
the 85 was on slicks.... he's on street tires.....
and as for Gary (PETC) saying something about DNF... read on.... and that is coming from a guy that took over 3 hours to attempt to get his axles in on his 93 n/a.... then I went into the garage and popped them both in in about 5 minutes......
i haven't looked at what other cars were at those CSCC events..... i do know that there are SEVERAL auto-x only vehicles that participate that are not street legal (including several vehicles such as western's VRI's formula SAE cars)
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the 85 was on slicks.... he's on street tires.....
and as for Gary (PETC) saying something about DNF... read on.... and that is coming from a guy that took over 3 hours to attempt to get his axles in on his 93 n/a.... then I went into the garage and popped them both in in about 5 minutes......
i haven't looked at what other cars were at those CSCC events..... i do know that there are SEVERAL auto-x only vehicles that participate that are not street legal (including several vehicles such as western's VRI's formula SAE cars)
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1) 2004 IS300 Manual/LSD/Sportdesign 2) 2010 Corolla S 5 speed 3) 1986 MR2 "MK1.22" 5sfe/s54 swap 3) 1995 Ford Explorer 4x4, TT/AAL/custom shackle lift, 31"s
the 85 was on slicks.... he's on street tires.....
and as for Gary (PETC) saying something about DNF... read on.... and that is coming from a guy that took over 3 hours to attempt to get his axles in on his 93 n/a.... then I went into the garage and popped them both in in about 5 minutes......
i haven't looked at what other cars were at those CSCC events..... i do know that there are SEVERAL auto-x only vehicles that participate that are not street legal (including several vehicles such as western's VRI's formula SAE cars)
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1) 2004 IS300 Manual/LSD/Sportdesign 2) 2010 Corolla S 5 speed 3) 1986 MR2 "MK1.22" 5sfe/s54 swap 3) 1995 Ford Explorer 4x4, TT/AAL/custom shackle lift, 31"s
IDK what is wrong with toyotanation.... but it's ALWAYS incredibly slow..... today just seems worse (i stopped them posting each time, but apparently it went through anyways).... (i'm on cable and using Mozilla...)
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yeah, i'm pretty UNIMPRESSED with people who have so much ish to say when they do NOT turn their own wrenches. it takes more than ownership...just my opinion.
Last edited by ToyotaTechGeek; 03-26-2007 at 05:28 PM.
man, you should know damned well that the car only equals 30% in a 100% equation. the car (if at 100%) only equals 70%. if springs are cut, yeah, they are oftentimes dangerous due to many, many factors, but in the end, it is still 70% driver.
Sure, I'll mostly agree that statement ... but then what is the point of this thread?
He provided this thread as some kind of proof that cut springs offer some performance benefit. Exactly how are we to surmise that from a video of someone thrashing a car around?
This thread does nothing to support his claim.
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Originally Posted by ToyotaTechGeek
yeah, i'm pretty UNIMPRESSED with people who have so much ish to say when they do NOT turn their own wrenches. it takes more than ownership...just my opinion.
Making comments like that says a lot more about your character than it does mine.
Frankly, I have no need or desire to impress you. You don't matter to me.
I'm here to discuss MR2s and their performance.
If you at a level in life that you compelled to make personal attacks,
then I can't really see wasting my time engaging in discussion with you.
Sure, I'll mostly agree that statement ... but then what is the point of this thread?
He provided this thread as some kind of proof that cut springs offer some performance benefit. Exactly how are we to surmise that from a video of someone thrashing a car around?
This thread does nothing to support his claim.
the post of yours that says, " Finishing 24th out of 40 cars is not exactly a great testament to the car's perforamce either." is why i posted that. you are arguing that cut springs are terrible. sure, i agree that i-chops aren't the answer in most cases. but you're criticising the driver in your statement, not the car.
Making comments like that says a lot more about your character than it does mine.
Frankly, I have no need or desire to impress you. You don't matter to me.
I'm here to discuss MR2s and their performance.
If you at a level in life that you compelled to make personal attacks,
then I can't really see wasting my time engaging in discussion with you.
furthermore, i could care less about you, too! you don't, nor have you ever mattered nor impressed me. i discuss MR2's and their performance here also along with other Toyota marques..you are suggesting that i am making personal attacks? so, what exactly does my statement say about my character??? enquiring minds want to know! my statement was a general/blanketed statement. if you are ofended, then it must have touched a nerve with you personally. do you do all of your own work??? i can't help that you are offended. i AM an equal opportunity offender. you say you waste your time engaging in discussion with me? i also feel my time is wasted terribly with discussing with you also. i waste my time reading some of your posts. they tend to be some of the most narcissistic, bloated, self-indulgent group of words assembled at times (of course, that is just my opinion). your comments regarding Hux racing...well, i found it interesting that your claims against them were the same claims i have against safedrives (they suck!). and you know, i really kind of hoped to know exactly what they gave you so that you would whore yourself so willingly to a business (haha) who does practice poor business.
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