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Old 02-06-2010, 05:38 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Throttle Body Upgrades????

I BLEW THE ENGINE FROM MY USDM MR2 (NICE) SO IM GOT A 3RD GEN 3SGTE BUT BEFORE I SWAP IT I WANT TO DO A FEW UPGRADES ON IT... HERE IS MY LIST OF WHAT I WANT TO DO AND HAVE DONE

NOTE: I HAVE NOT INSTALLED THESE JUST YET

FUEL RAIL: AEM
INJECTORS: VENOM 550
TURBO:CT27
FUEL PUMP:SUPRA FUEL PUMP
THROTTLE BODY: HAVEN FOUND ONE
SUSPENSSION: STOCK STILL LOOKING FOR ONE
BOOST CONTROLLER: STILL LOOKING
EXHAUST: STOCK HAVENT FOUND ONE YET
TRANNY: LSD WITH SPIDER GEARS ( I WAS LUCKY ON THIS ONE)
CAM GEARS: HKS ONE QUESTION WHY THE HELL MUST THEY BE PINK?
PISTONS: EAGLE RODS AND WISECO PISTON COMBO
INERCOOLER:LOOKING FOR ONE
PORT AND POLISH HEADS


THIS IS ALL I HAVE SO FAR ANY SUGESTIONS IT WOULD REALLY HELP ME OUT... BUT ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS IM LOOKING FOR IS A GOOD THROTTLE BODY PLEASE HELP... AND THANKS IN ADVANCE

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FUEL RAIL: AEM
INJECTORS: VENOM 550
TURBO:CT27
FUEL PUMP:SUPRA FUEL PUMP
THROTTLE BODY: HAVEN FOUND ONE
SUSPENSSION: STOCK STILL LOOKING FOR ONE
BOOST CONTROLLER: STILL LOOKING
EXHAUST: STOCK HAVENT FOUND ONE YET
TRANNY: LSD WITH SPIDER GEARS ( I WAS LUCKY ON THIS ONE)
CAM GEARS: HKS ONE QUESTION WHY THE HELL MUST THEY BE PINK?
PISTONS: EAGLE RODS AND WISECO PISTON COMBO
INERCOOLER:LOOKING FOR ONE
PORT AND POLISH HEADS
There's no reason to upgrade the fuel system. Most of those mods aren't even upgrades to a gen3, they're about the same as what's currently on there.

There's also no reason to do a throttle body upgrade without upgrading the intake manifold as well.

With a CT27 and a gen3, all none of your engine mods will increase power except the cam gears. What are your plans for the car and what end result are you looking for?
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Ghostyman is right , the Cam gears and boost controller are the only upgrades that will add any horsepower.
Also, please don't post in all upper case-as per forum rules.
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i don't think cam gears add hp, they just help to dial-in the cams for optimal powerband. and why are you looking to add adjustable cam gears for stock cams?
wow, there are so many issues with this post...where does one start?!?!
you blew your engine, so you need a new stock suspension? huh?
same for the stock exhaust. huh?
boost controllers are easy. are you looking for manual or electronic?
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you could use a mustang throttlebody for a 4.6/5.0

personally, i think you are barking up some of the wrong proverbial trees. you should probably be looking at engine management rather than worrying about the colour of cam gears.
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Actually, on the 3sgte, you can pick up an extra 10hp on the top end by retarding the exhaust cam 6 degrees.Plus if they're lightened gears, less wieght for the valve train.
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Actually, on the 3sgte, you can pick up an extra 10hp on the top end by retarding the exhaust cam 6 degrees.Plus if they're lightened gears, less wieght for the valve train.
hmmm, cool!
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^ Yeah, but I'm still with you about cam gears as a mod unless you're going with higher lift/longer duration cams. I think I would put the money on something else-especially for the $300.00 HKS wants for their cam gears.
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yeah and they still wear-out like about every other cam gear out there!
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yeah and they still wear-out like about every other cam gear out there!
Yeah, the aluminum just doesnt last like the OEM gears. I especially don't like the locking screws and the aluminum thread bore. Thats why if I go cams and gears, I will use the ATS Racing adjustable cam gears made from the OEM gears. Not as lite, but much stronger and durable.
1/2 the price too.
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yeah, i'd like to cut the outer ring off of oem gears if/when my AEMs wear-out and machine them for fitment onto the AEM centres.
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well im doing the whole engine i wont be done anytime soon i know that... i know i will still upgrade pretty much everything.. intake manifold is a for sure and speaking of the devil any opinions on a intake manifold? im just trying to get a few pointers of what throttle bodies.. i didnt know i could use the throttlebody from a mudstain.... just for future questions everything on that engine is going to be changed (EVERYTHING) it will be pretty much a brand new engine... what im trying to do is pretyy much beef it out as much as i can......
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Then you want a better turbo. Because to beef up everything and stick with that turbo is pointless. I am currently running on a t3/t4 46 trim on my car with most of the mods you posted. You can look into that setup from autolab or check out ATS Racing for different turbo options. But you really want to structure everything around a goal. Not just buy a bunch of upgrades for no reason. Once you establish a HP goal then you can decide on turbo/fuel/cams/Intercooler/ ect. So please indicate your goal first, then we can help with the rest.
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Then you want a better turbo. Because to beef up everything and stick with that turbo is pointless. I am currently running on a t3/t4 46 trim on my car with most of the mods you posted. You can look into that setup from autolab or check out ATS Racing for different turbo options. But you really want to structure everything around a goal. Not just buy a bunch of upgrades for no reason. Once you establish a HP goal then you can decide on turbo/fuel/cams/Intercooler/ ect. So please indicate your goal first, then we can help with the rest.
pretty much sums-up what i was saying...
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i don't think cam gears add hp, they just help to dial-in the cams for optimal powerband. and why are you looking to add adjustable cam gears for stock cams?
wow, there are so many issues with this post...where does one start?!?!
you blew your engine, so you need a new stock suspension? huh?
same for the stock exhaust. huh?
boost controllers are easy. are you looking for manual or electronic?
ewwww. venom injectors...
you could use a mustang throttlebody for a 4.6/5.0

personally, i think you are barking up some of the wrong proverbial trees. you should probably be looking at engine management rather than worrying about the colour of cam gears.
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ok how about more horsepower.... i want 330 or 340hp with no bs what is the best way getting to this point? tell what to buy and where... and ill keep you guys posted and post pics and all that good stuff... and thanks by the way to all of you...
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i don't think cam gears add hp, they just help to dial-in the cams for optimal powerband. and why are you looking to add adjustable cam gears for stock cams?
wow, there are so many issues with this post...where does one start?!?!
you blew your engine, so you need a new stock suspension? huh?
same for the stock exhaust. huh?
boost controllers are easy. are you looking for manual or electronic?
ewwww. venom injectors...
you could use a mustang throttlebody for a 4.6/5.0

personally, i think you are barking up some of the wrong proverbial trees. you should probably be looking at engine management rather than worrying about the colour of cam gears.
exhaust and suspension are my choice i did say i wanted pointers i never said i needed them.... and about the color of the camgears as you can see it was a dumb question.. you know, like "haha" and i also said everything in that engine was going to be changed that means. yep cams also
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