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***MR2Jedi*** · 04-09-2005, 01:19 AM

would the MR2 Spyder(00-present) be considered 3rd or 4th gen. Mr2? there was 3rd gen JDM only MR2-correct?

Piddy · 04-09-2005, 01:28 AM

Gen 1 = 198x - 1989
Gen 2 = 1990 - 2000
Gen 3 = 2000 - ???

Usually when MKII's are refered to as 'gen 3's'... it is considered a 3rd gen 3sgte.

ToyotaTechGeek · 04-09-2005, 08:17 AM

MkI 1983(non US)1985 (US)-1989
MkII 1991 (US)-1998(i think)
MkIII2001(US)-present

the 3rd Generation 3SGT-E didn't come in a MkIIT, they were usually swapped. that's my understanding anyway.

***MR2Jedi*** · 04-09-2005, 10:53 AM

so the Spyder is 3rd gen US and 4th gen. JDM?

ToyotaTechGeek · 04-09-2005, 03:49 PM

MkIII
period

***MR2Jedi*** · 04-09-2005, 04:13 PM

OK,,,thanks mine has 1zz engine, but I think the JDM has 2zz.. do you know if thats correct? and what is the difference between the 2?

ToyotaTechGeek · 04-10-2005, 12:52 AM

1ZZ
the Lotus Elise got the 2ZZ as did the Celica GT-S
the 2ZZ has VVTL-i
the 1ZZ has better bottom-end torque and is less peaky and only has VVT-i

Piddy · 04-10-2005, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ToyotaTechGeek

the 3rd Generation 3SGT-E didn't come in a MkIIT, they were usually swapped. that's my understanding anyway.

You are mistaken.

***MR2Jedi*** · 04-10-2005, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ToyotaTechGeek
the 3rd Generation 3SGT-E didn't come in a MkIIT, they were usually swapped. that's my understanding anyway.

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Originally Posted by ishcoleobo

You are mistaken.

so whats the deal?

Piddy · 04-10-2005, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by MR2BAD

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Originally Posted by ToyotaTechGeek
the 3rd Generation 3SGT-E didn't come in a MkIIT, they were usually swapped. that's my understanding anyway.

so whats the deal?

MKI's came with a 4age and a 4agze.

MKII's came with a 5sfe (us), 3sgte (1st/2nd gen US, 1,2 and 3rd gen in JP) and the 3sge (JP).

MKIII's (aka.. MRS or Sypder, not to be confused with the MKII Sypder) came with the 1zz.... I dont think they ever came stock with a 2zz.... even in Japan.

There is also a 4th gen (or gen 3.5 some call it) 3sgte that came in the Caldina (JP).

ToyotaTechGeek · 04-10-2005, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ishcoleobo

You are mistaken.

pardon me for EVER being wrong.

***MR2Jedi*** · 04-10-2005, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ToyotaTechGeek

pardon me for EVER being wrong.

it's OK, you are forgiven

but u see why I was asking ? it's kinda confusing cuz of JDM and USDM....personally I would say in US it's 3rd gen and Japan 4th gen...but ?????

ToyotaTechGeek · 04-10-2005, 06:27 PM

i still don't see where you're getting another model, though.
the 4th gen is referring to the engine, not the car. Toyota afficianados use Mk or 'Mark' as referrence to the model. 'Gen' is usually a honduh or dsm or rx-7 thing.

***MR2Jedi*** · 04-10-2005, 06:37 PM

Ok, well that right there clears everything up.I thought the JDM version that used the CT20 was another generation. especially since they stopped in the US in '95 and made them in japan for a few more years with different turbo/hp..duh,I've been out of crack for 3 days now !! thanks