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Old 09-22-2005, 08:59 AM   #1 (permalink)
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transmission oil

hey guys...i wanna know if how many quarts of transmission oil do you guys put in the transmission...my car has 3sgte engine...thanks in advance

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Old 09-22-2005, 10:02 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I would recommend the GM Synchromesh.
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Old 09-22-2005, 02:34 PM   #3 (permalink)
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thanks doc...really appreciate it...
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Old 09-24-2005, 03:32 PM   #4 (permalink)
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But go buy the Pennzoil Synchromesh at Autozone for half the money.
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Yes, it's an N/A. It IS a 3.0 liter V6 though. Does that matter?
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Old 09-24-2005, 06:18 PM   #5 (permalink)
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What about Redline Mt90? Or is that not really good to use?
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Old 09-24-2005, 11:37 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Sure it's great stuff.

BUT, after a couple of years of running MT-90 and then having my 3nd gear synchro go bad and having to very gingerly shift gears, I switched to Pennzoil Synchromesh, which is the same formulation as GM Synchromesh.

After a couple of days of driving, I couldn't crunch 3rd gear even if I slammed it into gear (while wondering if I was going to break a shifter cable).
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uhhmmm what weight do you guys use...just wondering...sometimes i don't like trusting those peepz who works in autozone or any of those auto shops
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True, trusting those dweebs to find it on the shelf is your first major problem, as they will tell you that they don't carry it. The Pennzoil tech line tells you that they do.


Synchromesh is not available in different weights.
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Why not whatever Toyota put in the car in the first place?
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Pennzoil Synchromesh all the way. I had a bad 2nd gear synchro in my 240sx and it was loud, but with that.. it got really quiet and smoother, didn't eliminate it tottally.. cause the synchro was horrible, but it made a world of a difference.
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Pennzoil Synchromesh Manual Transmission Fluid

by Jeff Lucius


The information presented here is gathered from the documents listed in the References section below.

Pennzoil-Quaker State Synchromesh is a unique transmission and transaxle fluid that is not API "GL" rated. It has an approximate gear oil grade of about SAE 80W and can be used when temperatures range from -40ºF (-40ºC) to 300ºF (150ºC). According to Pennzoil's product description it is "formulated with high quality paraffinic base stocks, a fluidity modifier, multifunctional performance additives, corrosion inhibitors, a foam suppressor and a shear stable viscosity index improver additive. It provides excellent oxidation stability, low temperature performance, excellent synchronizer performance and compatibility with yellow metals, such as bronze, brass and copper components found in manual transaxles and transmissions." This description makes Synchromesh suitable for use in some transaxles or transmissions where GL-4 gear oils are specified.

A post on the message board at www.oilanalysis.com found Synchromesh to consist of a 5W30 non-detergent oil with a friction modifer and an EP (extreme pressure) additive. It is made under contract for General Motors by Pennzoil (APC 3378) or by Texaco (Code 1874 MTX Fluid).

According to Don Johnson, Synchromesh fluid was developed for use in the New Venture manual transmission used by Chrysler and General Motors. Specifically, Synchromesh is formulated for transmissions that require GM Part No. 12345349 (Specification No. 9985648), GM Part No. 12345577, or Chrysler Part No. 4874464 (Specification MS-9224). Owners of Diamond Star Motors (DSM) Eclipse, Talon, and Laser cars with MMC (Mitsubishi Motor Corporation) transaxles have reported positive experiences using Synchromesh. The same can be said for owners of the Mitsubishi 3000GT and Dodge Stealth cars with the Getrag-manufactured AWD transaxles. The main benefit to DSM and 3/S owners seems to be excellent synchronizer performance, with reduced grinding and easier shifting compared to using some other gear oils.

Pennzoil Synchromesh Fluid can be purchased as that brand or as the equivalent products: Quaker State Synchromesh (Quaker State is part of Pennzoil), Texaco Synchromesh, GM Synchromesh, or AC Delco Synchromesh (part number 89021808). GM Synchromesh retails for about $10 per quart bottle at GM dealerships. Pennzoil Synchromesh is sold at many Auto Zone auto parts stores for about $5 per quart and should be available from Pennzoil distributors. Texaco Express Lube stores use Synchromesh but the stores I contacted would not sell the product by itself to customers. Pennzoil Synchromesh can be purchased in 5-gallon containers from oil-store.com.

References

Lubrication Basics by Don Johnson
Noria Message Board - Synchromesh what is it?
Pennzoil Synchromesh Fluid Product Description
Pennzoil Technical Information P-21-C; Automotive Gear Oils
Texaco Synchromesh Transmission Fluid
Viscosity and Engine and Gear Oil Grades
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Old 09-28-2005, 10:46 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Why is the GM/Penzoil syncromesh better than whatever Toyota put in factory
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Old 09-28-2005, 10:47 AM   #14 (permalink)
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sorry about that, couldn't see new threads
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Old 09-28-2005, 10:59 PM   #15 (permalink)
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OK So no questions about theGM/Penzoil syncromesh oil, but why that instead of what Toyota spec'ed for the car?
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