what do u think?

[Sportivo Concepts]

Originally posted by joshthorsc
The trd s/c should fit on the es. They share the same engine as the camry and don't see a reason why it wouldn't fit. Wickedlex, go for it!! If I had a es300, my s/c will come first, then the sound system. Hehehe!!!

Yes they share the same engine, but so does the Avalon, but do you see anywhere on TRD site or in any Toyota brochures that there is a S/C available for the ES or Avalon?.... nope... want to know why?

Well I'm telling ya anyways... its becasue the engine is crammed in there already.... and they way the engine sits creates clearance problems.... not to mention that the ECU for the Avie and the ES are the same, but different from the Sienna, Camry and Solara.

Also the ES and Avie are both VVT-i which the Camry was not, not to mention both are 5spd auto which the Cam is not

After lots of time and money he can get the TRD S/C to fit and work, but it wont be pretty, he gonna have to reprogram the ECU, which Toyota nor TRD will not give up to just anybody, not even alot of their race teams is previe to this info.

Their new Tundra for NASCAR, there is a reason why Toyota is building everything and then sell the whole truck to the teams and then go and sell them a second engine and so forth.

I will back him all the way if he decides to try to work the TRD S/C into his lex, and will give mad props when and if he does... but I'm not gonna put him down and say oh your crazy thats not gonna work... just that yes they are the same engine, but thats it... all the coding is different and the engine bay is different so its gonna be tough.

Anyways back on the subject at hand... good luck with your project no matter which way you go with it.

[joshthorsc]

Originally posted by Sportivo Concepts
Yes they share the same engine, but so does the Avalon, but do you see anywhere on TRD site or in any Toyota brochures that there is a S/C available for the ES or Avalon?.... nope... want to know why?

Well I'm telling ya anyways... its becasue the engine is crammed in there already.... and they way the engine sits creates clearance problems.... not to mention that the ECU for the Avie and the ES are the same, but different from the Sienna, Camry and Solara.

Also the ES and Avie are both VVT-i which the Camry was not, not to mention both are 5spd auto which the Cam is not

After lots of time and money he can get the TRD S/C to fit and work, but it wont be pretty, he gonna have to reprogram the ECU, which Toyota nor TRD will not give up to just anybody, not even alot of their race teams is previe to this info.

Their new Tundra for NASCAR, there is a reason why Toyota is building everything and then sell the whole truck to the teams and then go and sell them a second engine and so forth.

I will back him all the way if he decides to try to work the TRD S/C into his lex, and will give mad props when and if he does... but I'm not gonna put him down and say oh your crazy thats not gonna work... just that yes they are the same engine, but thats it... all the coding is different and the engine bay is different so its gonna be tough.

Anyways back on the subject at hand... good luck with your project no matter which way you go with it.

Nicely said. I learned something new here today. Wickedlex, just go w/ NOS!!

[skperformance]

in response to a few wrong things

first , wicked who has a supercharger on an ES?

second , the only issue is with the vvti on a 97 and up to S/C that cannot be worked around easily.
the rest of your comments sportivo are hearsay and not from actual people doing it but the usual it won't work crew of idiology and guess work racing .

josh teh 1mz-fe has weak aluminum rods which cannot take heavy forced induction or nos easily as the compression rates over 10 lbs get slightly hairy for crank walk after 15 pounds constantly , this is no 1jz 1uz or any other big boy toyota power plant.

the s/c can be done but it needs 3 things
a good shop to make it and fabricate the parts
$10 000 to cover all parts that will break and need to be redeveloped,
a very good technical driver to be able to learn teh engines way with teh charger to adapt to it and fix problems as they will show up and know what to look for.
like knowing how to read a stupid afr gauge ,to most people it is useless dancing lights, when read properly it will show response fuel mileage and egr problems if you know when and how to look for it.
so first thing you need to do is get 10 000 play money to waste
then this can go somewhere
otherwise this will become part of the thousands of threads with big boy dreams of s/c and turboing a 1mz-fe and of course ,nothing happens.

[cam2Xrunner]

99 and up es300's had vvti. Just thought i'd throw that in. It probably would be easier to turbocharge an es.

[Sportivo Concepts]

Originally posted by skperformance
in response to a few wrong things

first , wicked who has a supercharger on an ES?

second , the only issue is with the vvti on a 97 and up to S/C that cannot be worked around easily.
the rest of your comments sportivo are hearsay and not from actual people doing it but the usual it won't work crew of idiology and guess work racing .

Umm my info is coming from TRD themselves, as well as test fitting it on my ES as well as the previous generation ES... I never said it could not be done just very difficult.

Think about this if it was as easy to do as some make it seem don't you think TRD would include the ES and Avalon on the list for the Supercharger? Why exclude just these two vehicles when the rest of the 1MZ line-up can use it?

The reason is because of the VVt-i is not compatable with the Supercharger at all, plain and simple as that.

My ES sat in our garage for 3 months working on the possiblities of adding a TRD S/C to it, so I know what I am talking about. One of my chief mechanics also works for Robert Huffman and the rest of my crew all are very highly skilled ppl.

He has a 96 so I'm not sure if it has VVT-i or not, but if it does he will be heading towards headaches galore, and best bet is to take it to a garage/shop that deals with racing engines and power adders.