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Old 02-13-2005, 09:01 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Looking 97' ES 300 .. what to look for before buying?!?

Looking at 97' ES 300. 165,000 KM.

Is it normal that there is some wear to the leather on the driver's side at 165k? or could this be a sign that the milege has been altered?

What else should I look for? Compression test? Oil leaks?

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Engine sludge, radio LCD working or not, AVS working....
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^whats AVS. i've seen it before but the letters aren't kicking into my head.
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AVS (Adaptive Variable Suspension) allows the driver to select from four suspension settings - comfort to sports firm – at the flick of a switch. Computerized sensors also monitor steering and wheel speed to eliminate dive, squat, lean and roll.
Here's the switch in my car:
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Looking at 97' ES 300. 165,000 KM.

Is it normal that there is some wear to the leather on the driver's side at 165k? or could this be a sign that the milege has been altered?

What else should I look for? Compression test? Oil leaks?

This forum is awesome, thanks for your help in advance!!!


DEFINATELY LOOK FOR OIL LEAKS.


the ES series have an issue with thier valve covers leaking. its very common, though not too terribly expensive to replace. Usually around $400 for both gaskets P&L.

the other less common (but still common) oil leak on an ES comes from the rear main seal.

this will run more, between $800-$1,000.

as for leather wear, it has little to do with mileage and mroe to do with how well it was taken care of and how many times the vehicle has been exited/entered on that side.

i woudl say at that mileage, some substantial wear is normal if the leather wasnt cared for.
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Old 02-25-2005, 03:24 PM   #7 (permalink)
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i think you'd be happier getting a 99 or above... They had some good changes in 99. different tail lights, different headlights, HID, different front bumper, as well as other things.
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i dont...99-01 had interference engines. DONT DO THIS. if the timig belt breaks, Mr. Piston will meet Ms. Valve.


Also a word on the AVS, the struts are EXTREMELY expensive. i woudl steer away from thsi option. when it does require repair, a $3,000-$3,500 bill is not out of the question.
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The biggest problems are blown head gaskets, and the dreaded RMS leaking.
Headgaskets are a free replacement from Toyota if you can prove the oil has been changed in 10,000 miles, or 10 months.

The rear main seal is normally not attempted without dropping the transmission out of the car. However, that being said, there are some "limber" Toyota/Lexus dealers that will tell you they can do it without dropping the transmission.

Valve covers are as strong as any other car. Eventually they leak, but that's no big deal. Generally cheap work, and definately something a non-mechanic can change by themselves in a day. Weekend project at most. (Take the upper intake off, then 8 10mm bolts hold the valve covers on)





As always, take a strong flashlight with you and look at the back of the engine. If oil is streamin form the top it's a valve cover gasket. If it starts from the middle it's the head gasket. If its' on the bottom it's the rear main seal.
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The '01 to XXX year tail light swap is a fairly cheap and common upgrade also.
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i dont...99-01 had interference engines. DONT DO THIS. if the timig belt breaks, Mr. Piston will meet Ms. Valve.


Also a word on the AVS, the struts are EXTREMELY expensive. i woudl steer away from thsi option. when it does require repair, a $3,000-$3,500 bill is not out of the question.
The Lexus 1MZ-FE is a non-interference engine. Even 99-01
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The Lexus 1MZ-FE is a non-interference engine. Even 99-01
No, the VVT-i engines are interference engines.
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You're telling me that you're not going to buy a great car made by a great manufacturer just because the engine is an interference engine? Hey simple solution - Replace your belts when they need to be replaced. what a concept!
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Im saying it would be a big factor for me yes. I change my shit when it needs changed, but that doesnt mean things dont break. Knowing my luck, i will have followed my interval but it will still happen. thats just the way these things go for me.

i dont know about you, but finding the time to replace my own timing belt is a rediculous idea, there is no way i would have enough time to replace a timing belt. i work ~90 hours a week.

and taking it somewhere and being raped on the price isnt my idea of fun either.
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It's a timing belt....well, maybe with a wate pump thrown in. Shouldn't cost more than $600 to replace. When it breaks you'll have to replace it anyways. What's the diff? If you can't afford the maintenence on a Lexus, maybe you shouldn't own one.

I call BS on you working 90+ hours/week. That's 15~18 hours a day. If so, you should have the $$$ to do a timing belt replacement. Not only will you be physically worn out, but you also would not have the time to be posting in all the other Toyota/Lexus forums I see you on.
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