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[Tideland Prius]

Originally Posted by EvoFire

While yes, I agree that the Land Cruiser has a great and colorful history as a highly competent offroading machine, the sorry state of modernizing cars has gotten to it just like it did to the old and trusty Toyota pickup. It just simply got too big and has grown out of its class. Being the same machine as the LX570, I've seen the LX, its a HUGE machine and I definitely won't expect it to be maneuverable in bad terrain.

Right now as I see it, its just simply another huge machine with a historical name hung on the tailgate, and completely tarnishing that name. I'll think like that until some individual comes to prove me wrong with hard facts and perhaps a detailed review by a magazine. yes true it probably has all the needed mechanics, but it still doesn't beat the fact that its huge. Reason why the Lotus Elise/Exige is successful? They stuck to the minimalist basic roots and keeping it really really small.

Ya it's huge. I sat in one at the autoshow... god damn why is the Sequoia even around (even though that's huge in its own right. The 4Runner parked next to it at the dealership where I saw the Sequoia looked tiny. It looked like a RAV4 to the Sequoia)

Originally Posted by Sulu

The Toyota Land Cruiser, like the Land Rover Defender, is a legend in its own right, and those who worship Toyota off-road vehicles would likely see the Sequoia as a poseur, a fake that was built only to be a competitor to the Ford Expedition and GM's Suburban/Tahoe/... large, truck-based station wagons (and not off-road vehicles). (The Toyota FJ Cruiser may be compared to the MINI and Volkswagen's New Beetle as modern interpretations of classic, legendary vehicles, in Toyota's case, its FJ40 Land Cruiser.) Defined this way, I can see the Land Cruiser not selling too many models, but the diesel model doing relatively well as an option, and as Tideland Prius said, may be shopped by those looking for a true off-road-capable vehicle and willing to pay for better ability because of the incredible torque.

mmhmm... but the question is which version of the LC will we get? There are variations of the Defender and ditto the LC. We only know the LC as the fully luxo version here but there are SWB and 2-dr versions right?