yet another thread on something supposed... sorta reminds me of the 2008/2009/2010/2011/2012 supra thread. don't hold your breath. i'm not doubting, but i wouldn't start saving up for one.
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Originally Posted by EvoFire
220hp from 2.0L N/A is possible. Honda can with the K20(210hp), and Toyota did, with the 3S-GE(210hp).
I think with Toyota collaboration, it shouldn't be too hard for Subaru to hit 220hp on their engines.
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add yamaha's knowledge to the mix, and 220 should be a breeze. i don't think the 220 hp out of two naturally-aspirated liters is the question. that can be easily done and has been done. heck, they toyota/subie/yamaha can design it with good mpg and reliability to boot.
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Originally Posted by EvoFire
^ Yes I've heard about lubrication problems on the boxers. We'll just have to see. I have a feeling about this though because the boxer is not a weak engine in terms of getting hp figures.
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^lubrication problems can be an issue, though i don't see something major as that coming out of a toyota, and i'm sure toyota would like to keep it that way. an electronic mishap is more likely to come about these days, such as the tranny flares in the gen6 camry drivetrains.
and yeah. boxer engines are sweet right out of the box. they've never been anemic from the factory from what i recall, but that's somewhat due to tuning. the two major companies utilizing boxer engiens (porsche and subaru) didn't have uber-high mpg in their mind when creating their boxer engines- even the n/a four-banger in the base impreza.
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Originally Posted by Tideland Prius
Instead of people rebadging Acuras as Hondas, it will be Subarus as Toyotas!
Hmm.. it's interesting that they're benchmarking a FWD car, although the ITR does handle well.
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^i found it interesting too that they're benchmarking the ITR for their RWD 2+2.
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Originally Posted by ECale3
I'm starting to really hate toyota.
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^why? because they didn't badge it as one?
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Originally Posted by EvoFire
Tideland: I believe reading somewhere at the time of introduction, the ITR was the only consumer consumption car that people could afford that was tuned to be neutral, everything else was tuned to understeer from factory.
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^yup. even the lesser integras were totally different machines from the factory. almost every suspension component was highly combed-over. stock suspension was one of the greatest for a fwd car, and some would say it
IS the greatest fwd suspension. basically everything nowadays is designed with push-understeer from the factory because it's safer for the general public.
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Surprisingly, the joint Toyota-Subaru R&D team has chosen the out-of-production, front-wheel-drive Honda Integra Type R as its benchmark, because its styling, performance parameters and dimensions mirror what the development team wants to create.
Expected to ride on a 103-inch wheelbase, the 2,866-pound coupes will use a 2+2 seating configuration.
Slated for a late 2011 debut, the coupes are expected to be priced starting just under $20,000.
What this means to you: Good times on the horizon for fans of low-end rear-wheel-drive coupes
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^what does it mean to me? another car that can easily be subjected to rice.
but still, i hope this gets out.
